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  • J JoeGonzalez

    Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Just wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

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    • J JoeGonzalez

      Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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      CPallini
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      Visual C++ is not obsolete, however, in my opinion, is no (more?!) mainstream.

      Veni, vidi, vici.

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      • J JoeGonzalez

        Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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        Kevin Marois
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        JoeGonzalez wrote:

        All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers

        Ever heard of C#?

        JoeGonzalez wrote:

        Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

        You're a C++ developer and you "only find Java and vb.Net" jobs?? That's strange. It would be a hell of alot easier to go from C++ or Java to C#, instead of to vb.Net.

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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        • J JoeGonzalez

          Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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          Albert Holguin
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          It really depends on what your skills and background are like, although if you compare it to other languages out there, there's probably more jobs out there relating to the newer frameworks and systems that people are using today.

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          • J JoeGonzalez

            Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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            LloydA111
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            No, typical Microsoft neglected it for too long, but it is becoming more popular now :)


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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Just wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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              BillWoodruff
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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Just wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

              Hi Pete, I assume you jest here, but am very curious(absent smiley-cue), if you might, indeed, be serious. thanks, Bill

              "Humans are amphibians ... half spirit and half animal ... as spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time. This means that while their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imaginations are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy, therefore, is undulation: the repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                Just wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

                Hi Pete, I assume you jest here, but am very curious(absent smiley-cue), if you might, indeed, be serious. thanks, Bill

                "Humans are amphibians ... half spirit and half animal ... as spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time. This means that while their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imaginations are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy, therefore, is undulation: the repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Let's just say that the jest icon would have been used if there was one there.

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                • J JoeGonzalez

                  Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                  Andy Bantly
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                  COBOL is still alive and kicking so let's not drive the coffin nails into VC++. I still use it for work and for fun.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Just wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    wait until Windows 8 comes out and companies abandon Android and iPad/iPhone development. C++ is going to be huge...

                    I agree good sir!

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                    • J JoeGonzalez

                      Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                      Lost User
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                      VC++ Rocks. VB - not a language. Knock knock. Who's there? Java. Java who? If you think about it c/c++ are/is used to create a lot of those other "languages" - look deep enough... you'll find your mallocs.

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                      • J JoeGonzalez

                        Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                        Shao Voon Wong
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                        I used to be a Visual C++ developer who is now a C# ASP.NET developer. C++ jobs in Singapore are few and between, compared to C# and most of them often need additional skills like Linux, TCP/IP, embedded and 3D games programming, for the job, which I do not have. C++ developer should find it easy to switch to C# and Java, given that you are willing to put in time and effort to read up on the language and their frameworks.

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                        • J JoeGonzalez

                          Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                          Lost User
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                          By Visual C++ do you mean GUI programming in c++? C++ development seems to be very strong here, particularly on linux

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                          • J JoeGonzalez

                            Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                            Steve Echols
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                            Maybe try entertainment industries like Lucas, Pixar, or gaming studios? Here's one job that requires C++: https://www.lucasfilm.apply2jobs.com/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJob&RID=3309&CurrentPage=1[^]. Not sure I'd want to work in that environment, but to each his own. I see the odd C++ job on Craigslist occasionally, but yeah, seems like they're getting pretty scarce.


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                            • J JoeGonzalez

                              Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              I got an Android phone this weekend, so I took a look at how to develop for it. One thing I read mentioned that Android (the OS) is written in C and C++ to a large extent (as expected), so I assume one could write apps for it in C++.

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                                JoeGonzalez wrote:

                                All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers

                                Ever heard of C#?

                                JoeGonzalez wrote:

                                Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

                                You're a C++ developer and you "only find Java and vb.Net" jobs?? That's strange. It would be a hell of alot easier to go from C++ or Java to C#, instead of to vb.Net.

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                Lost User
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                                Totally agreed!:thumbsup:

                                Happy Programming

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  I got an Android phone this weekend, so I took a look at how to develop for it. One thing I read mentioned that Android (the OS) is written in C and C++ to a large extent (as expected), so I assume one could write apps for it in C++.

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                                  Daniel Casserly
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                                  Not really. The main app system thingy is all done on the Dalvik VM which is Java so all the SDK is Java. You can get plugins to program in other languages (even python!!) but Java is the default langauage.

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                                  • J JoeGonzalez

                                    Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                                    Amir Hossein Jamshidi
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                                    I have been programming in java and c# for two years(I know that it is not any thing in comparison to your 12 years skill), but I always feel that I don't have some thing . some thing like performance , speed and power . power for developing for every thing from embedded systems , drivers , game developing , 3d modeling and simulation and many other . Would you like to change our skills! :-\ :rose::rose::rose:

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                                    • J JoeGonzalez

                                      Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                                      YvesDaoust
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                                      Why don't you stay in imaging ? It's the most beautiful place in the world :) They are still using good ol' C++. If I were you, I wouldn't focus on the development platform. You sure have many more assets than that.

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                                        Not really. The main app system thingy is all done on the Dalvik VM which is Java so all the SDK is Java. You can get plugins to program in other languages (even python!!) but Java is the default langauage.

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                                        Paul M Watt
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                                        You also have access to the native API and can develop in C++. The front end will have to start with the JAVA activities to initiate the app on the Dalvik VM, but after that you can use JNI to develop in C++ without the need for plugins.

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                                        • J JoeGonzalez

                                          Im looking for Visual C++ jobs and I can't find any that are not related to embeded or 3d development. Is Visual C++ application development obsolete? All the job postings I find are for Java and VB net developers. I have been programming Imaging systems for the last 12 years. Now I am lookingfor a new job and can't find a good fit.

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                                          rudolfsson
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                                          I'd say that regular Windows application development in C++ is pretty much obsolete, it's just so much easier to develop GUIs using .NET languages that using VC++ just doesn't make much sense, hence the lack of available jobs. C++ itself though is still very much alive and kicking, and having solid C++ skills is still definitely a benefit. Even though the GUI stuff is done in C#/Java there is still a need for writing high performance components in native languages. As several people suggested already, why not learn C# (if you want to keep doing Windows app development) or Java (if you want a broader selection of platforms)? Learning either of these is a piece of cake for an experienced C++ programmer, you can pick up the basics in a day or two. The best way to stay competitive in today's job market is to have an extensive toolbox, so knowing multiple languages and platforms is critical. Best of luck with your job hunting!

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