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  • K Keith Barrow

    I mean this in the original sense of inspiring awe. 3D Model of the Antikythera Mechanism[^] The images look like a 18th century pocket watch, rather than a 2000 year old artefact.

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    Maximilien
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    I'm somewhat skeptical. :confused: I don't know how "clock-making" could have been "hidden" for 1000+ years; or how such intricate mechanism could have been done; by the look of the gears, it should not have been done in that time-frame (to my knowledge, no other gear of that kind was ever found). curiouser and curiouser.

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    • L Lost User

      Why are post modern people always suprised to find out that ancient man was intelligent?

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      Maximilien
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      It's not a question of intelligence, just a question of level of technology.

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      • J JOAT MON

        wizardzz wrote:

        Why was only one of these ever discovered?

        1. Only one person figured out how to make it, he was known as a wizard. He kept the secrets of his magic to himself. 2) It was a prototype and didn't work. Those are my guesses. It does bear the question though of how many technologies exist today that are not well distributed, but could be radical improvements over currently accepted technologies.

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        JOAT-MON wrote:

        It does bear the question though of how many technologies exist today that are not well distributed, but could be radical improvements over currently accepted technologies.

        Most excellent question. I have thought this as well.

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          I'm somewhat skeptical. :confused: I don't know how "clock-making" could have been "hidden" for 1000+ years; or how such intricate mechanism could have been done; by the look of the gears, it should not have been done in that time-frame (to my knowledge, no other gear of that kind was ever found). curiouser and curiouser.

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          Isn't it possible that someone tossed a clock overboard and it happened to land on an ancient wreck? I should think the Hello Kitty engraving on the back would have clued the archeologist in on that.

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            Isn't it possible that someone tossed a clock overboard and it happened to land on an ancient wreck? I should think the Hello Kitty engraving on the back would have clued the archeologist in on that.

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            MehGerbil wrote:

            Isn't it possible that someone tossed a clock overboard

            That is exactly what I thought when I first heard about the gizmo.

            MehGerbil wrote:

            I should think the Hello Kitty engraving on the back would have clued the archeologist in on that.

            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: If we just ingore that part it makes the theory seems more feasable.

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            • J JOAT MON

              wizardzz wrote:

              Why was only one of these ever discovered?

              1. Only one person figured out how to make it, he was known as a wizard. He kept the secrets of his magic to himself. 2) It was a prototype and didn't work. Those are my guesses. It does bear the question though of how many technologies exist today that are not well distributed, but could be radical improvements over currently accepted technologies.

              Jack of all trades ~ Master of none.

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              wizardzz
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              JOAT-MON wrote:

              1. Only one person figured out how to make use it, he was known as a wizard lead developer. He kept the secrets of his magic to himself.

              JOAT-MON wrote:

              1. It was a prototype and didn't work. Yet the great Bullshitticus, the greatest liar in Ancient Greece, convinced everyone that "it would definitely work by next Friday," becoming the world's first technology salesman!
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              • W wizardzz

                JOAT-MON wrote:

                1. Only one person figured out how to make use it, he was known as a wizard lead developer. He kept the secrets of his magic to himself.

                JOAT-MON wrote:

                1. It was a prototype and didn't work. Yet the great Bullshitticus, the greatest liar in Ancient Greece, convinced everyone that "it would definitely work by next Friday," becoming the world's first technology salesman!
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                His success is even more remarkable because Bullshitticus was an Ancient Roman. It's not easy working away from home and in a foreign language. Good thing for him that his cousin, Bullshittotle, provided lodgings and helped with translation.

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                  His success is even more remarkable because Bullshitticus was an Ancient Roman. It's not easy working away from home and in a foreign language. Good thing for him that his cousin, Bullshittotle, provided lodgings and helped with translation.

                  Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                  Bullshitticus used up all his Roman leads.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Why are post modern people always suprised to find out that ancient man was intelligent?

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                    Henry Minute
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                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    Why are post modern people always suprised to find out that ancient man was intelligent?

                    I you meant most modern rather than post modern then the answer is simple. It's because so few of his contemporaries are.

                    Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                    • W wizardzz

                      The technology was not matched again for 1400 years? Wow, that is a good portion of written history. Why was only one of these ever discovered? I with the Nemi Ships weren't destroyed in WWII. How cool were those?

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      wizardzz wrote:

                      Why was only one of these ever discovered?

                      It must have been pretty expensive to make, also bronze tended to be recycled.

                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                      • K Keith Barrow

                        wizardzz wrote:

                        Why was only one of these ever discovered?

                        It must have been pretty expensive to make, also bronze tended to be recycled.

                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                        -Or-
                        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                        wizardzz
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                        Good call, you are completely right about recycling.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Isn't it possible that someone tossed a clock overboard and it happened to land on an ancient wreck? I should think the Hello Kitty engraving on the back would have clued the archeologist in on that.

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                          Maximilien
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                          That's probably it.

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                            Why are post modern people always suprised to find out that ancient man was intelligent?

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            The Greeks pretty much set the standard for intelligence. The human brain hasn't changed much so therefore raw intelligence hasn't either (mod any improvements due to education). What has changed in the intervening time is the level of knowledge. The mechanism shows is a level of technical achievement that is beyond its years and beyond anything we have so far found, that is what makes it so surprising. The equivalent would be a future archaeologist discovering a Star-Trek warp drive underneath a copy of today's Times.

                            Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                            A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              Wow there's been a lot of play about the device lately, looking forward to seeing the whole piece.

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                              JohnAspras
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                              YEah it makes me proud to be Greek, although we fuck up nowadays....

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