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    'In times like this, states usually get a little extra help from Washington, but instead they're going to give the money to me. I get the money,'' Clinton, who made $9.2 million in speaking fees in 2001, said to hoots of laughter. ''As you can see, I can afford a nice suit and tie, but I need an income tax cut, a dividend tax cut,'' he said sarcastically. http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-clin24.html[^] in other news... GWB gave a speech to the factory workers this week, pushing this tax cut. he was standing in front of a large stack of boxes with the "Made in USA" label on them. but, those boxes were fake - it was a painted backdrop. but, the boxes in front of the podium were real - and so was the brown tape that covered up their "Made in China" labels. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/madeinusa_030122.html[^] -c


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    Hilarious! When I worked at Ace Hardware (an all American company if ever there was one) I got a laugh out of reading the online ordering information. The plumbing products - "Hecho in Mexico" - the electrical products, all made in China, including the Christmas decorations and lights. Lawn & Garden products range from Taiwan to the Phillipines to Korea, and the lumber all comes from Canada (I guess they worry more about jobs than Spotted Owls). The only thing made in the US that I could locate is paint and playground sand. "Buy American!" Printed in Japan Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
    Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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      'In times like this, states usually get a little extra help from Washington, but instead they're going to give the money to me. I get the money,'' Clinton, who made $9.2 million in speaking fees in 2001, said to hoots of laughter. ''As you can see, I can afford a nice suit and tie, but I need an income tax cut, a dividend tax cut,'' he said sarcastically. http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-clin24.html[^] in other news... GWB gave a speech to the factory workers this week, pushing this tax cut. he was standing in front of a large stack of boxes with the "Made in USA" label on them. but, those boxes were fake - it was a painted backdrop. but, the boxes in front of the podium were real - and so was the brown tape that covered up their "Made in China" labels. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/madeinusa_030122.html[^] -c


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      Yeah, yeah, the country's going to hell, Budweiser sucks, and South Africa owns Miller. Pass the Canadian beer so i can forget about this for a bit...

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        Yeah, yeah, the country's going to hell, Budweiser sucks, and South Africa owns Miller. Pass the Canadian beer so i can forget about this for a bit...

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        Shog9 wrote: South Africa owns Miller :-D :-D ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: And we just go the contract to do their intranet. SAB Millers. Sweet! Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project.

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        lauren wrote: theyre making a movie about me "confessions of a dangerous bitch" (hey! she said it, not me)

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          Shog9 wrote: South Africa owns Miller :-D :-D ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: And we just go the contract to do their intranet. SAB Millers. Sweet! Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project.

          Paul Watson
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          lauren wrote: theyre making a movie about me "confessions of a dangerous bitch" (hey! she said it, not me)

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          The only way i can take comfort in this is to realize that, apart from Guinness, all my favorite beers are still from small local breweries. Except for MGD. Which is too cheap to resist... :~

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            The only way i can take comfort in this is to realize that, apart from Guinness, all my favorite beers are still from small local breweries. Except for MGD. Which is too cheap to resist... :~

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            Shog9 wrote: The only way i can take comfort in this is to realize that Take comfort in the knowledge that the merger/buyout has opened up a good opportunity for a fellow CPIan... :) Though, why is it so bad that Millers is now owned by a SA company? Is it now too un-American? I doubt SAB will be changing any of Millers' beer formulas, that would be daft.

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              Shog9 wrote: The only way i can take comfort in this is to realize that Take comfort in the knowledge that the merger/buyout has opened up a good opportunity for a fellow CPIan... :) Though, why is it so bad that Millers is now owned by a SA company? Is it now too un-American? I doubt SAB will be changing any of Millers' beer formulas, that would be daft.

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              Paul Watson wrote: Take comfort in the knowledge that the merger/buyout has opened up a good opportunity for a fellow CPIan... :cool: Paul Watson wrote: Though, why is it so bad that Millers is now owned by a SA company? Being SA doesn't bother me at all. It's the ever-greater consolidation that concerns me. So many brands and companies that were at one time local to this state or even this town are now manufactured and/or controlled far away. It's worrying, because the larger brewers tend to swallow up the more popular of the smaller brands, eventually turning them into the same slop as everything else. It's also worrying because there's a very real potential for the same to happen with the company i'm with currently. Not that it'd be so terribly bad if i had to move to keep my job, or move to find a different one, but in spite of everything i rather like it here. But then, that's life i guess.

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                Paul Watson wrote: Take comfort in the knowledge that the merger/buyout has opened up a good opportunity for a fellow CPIan... :cool: Paul Watson wrote: Though, why is it so bad that Millers is now owned by a SA company? Being SA doesn't bother me at all. It's the ever-greater consolidation that concerns me. So many brands and companies that were at one time local to this state or even this town are now manufactured and/or controlled far away. It's worrying, because the larger brewers tend to swallow up the more popular of the smaller brands, eventually turning them into the same slop as everything else. It's also worrying because there's a very real potential for the same to happen with the company i'm with currently. Not that it'd be so terribly bad if i had to move to keep my job, or move to find a different one, but in spite of everything i rather like it here. But then, that's life i guess.

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                Shog9 wrote: But then, that's life i guess. Sure but might not neccesarily be the best thing. I have been wondering of late wether all this huge mega corporation deal is really helping us any. So little personal care anymore. Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. Every shot has to be carefully and lovingly composed and crafted. And it has made me feel that we have lost the craftmans pride. A lot of Zen And The Art Of... is about this.

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                  Yeah, yeah, the country's going to hell, Budweiser sucks, and South Africa owns Miller. Pass the Canadian beer so i can forget about this for a bit...

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                  I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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                    I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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                    KaЯl wrote: What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". Perhaps this is a bit unfair to some of the better vintage piss out there, but...

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                      Shog9 wrote: But then, that's life i guess. Sure but might not neccesarily be the best thing. I have been wondering of late wether all this huge mega corporation deal is really helping us any. So little personal care anymore. Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. Every shot has to be carefully and lovingly composed and crafted. And it has made me feel that we have lost the craftmans pride. A lot of Zen And The Art Of... is about this.

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                      Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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                        I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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                        drinking Bud makes me nervous, and a little ill. why? because the only time i drink it is when i'm at a party with a keg. i just know (from years of experience) that i'm going to be drinking far too much of the stuff (and probably throwing it back up in the bathroom). yuck. true. -c


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                          Shog9 wrote: South Africa owns Miller :-D :-D ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: And we just go the contract to do their intranet. SAB Millers. Sweet! Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project.

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                          Paul Watson wrote: Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project. Don't touch it!!! That's the worst beer ever made, even worse than Foster's! Pour it on a houseplant you don't like instead... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                            Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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                            Shog9 wrote: they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accountants have been replaced by machines? I never noticed the difference! Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                              Shog9 wrote: they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accountants have been replaced by machines? I never noticed the difference! Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                              Roger Wright wrote: Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Hmm, now that you mention it, i may have noticed ears on one of the machines before it bored me to sleep... :suss:

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                                KaЯl wrote: What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". Perhaps this is a bit unfair to some of the better vintage piss out there, but...

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                                Shog9 wrote: Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". :wtf::omg: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis :eek:?


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                                  Shog9 wrote: Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". :wtf::omg: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis :eek:?


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                                  KaЯl wrote: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis ? Far too often, yes. Generally in the form of something called "Bud Lite". They put it in cans similar to those surrounding Budweiser to make you think it's beer, but the trivial observation that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body reveals the truth. :|

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                                    KaЯl wrote: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis ? Far too often, yes. Generally in the form of something called "Bud Lite". They put it in cans similar to those surrounding Budweiser to make you think it's beer, but the trivial observation that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body reveals the truth. :|

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                                    Shog9 wrote: that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body it's a danger to the environment - it cannot be broken down. a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. -c


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                                      I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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                                      try the original (Czech) Bud for enlightment ;)


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                                        Shog9 wrote: that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body it's a danger to the environment - it cannot be broken down. a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. -c


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                                        Chris Losinger wrote: a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. :eek::eek::eek: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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                                          Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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                                          Shog9 wrote: *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm\[^\] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accounting and photography are, well, a tad different. If they had any similarities I would not be so into photography. One is a art, the other is not. This is why you cannot mechanize it. That robot is quaint and I am sure takes wonderful wedding photographs... but wedding photographs are forumalic and hardly art. You don't see wedding photographs being exhibited except by proud, yet misguided, parents. The very best photographs are the ones that break all the rules, all the rules that that robot is following and would never break because it does not have creativity. One day an AI infused robot surely will break through and take artful photographs, but then it won't be mechanization, it will be creativity all over again. Interesting link though :)

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