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    Paul Watson wrote: Take comfort in the knowledge that the merger/buyout has opened up a good opportunity for a fellow CPIan... :cool: Paul Watson wrote: Though, why is it so bad that Millers is now owned by a SA company? Being SA doesn't bother me at all. It's the ever-greater consolidation that concerns me. So many brands and companies that were at one time local to this state or even this town are now manufactured and/or controlled far away. It's worrying, because the larger brewers tend to swallow up the more popular of the smaller brands, eventually turning them into the same slop as everything else. It's also worrying because there's a very real potential for the same to happen with the company i'm with currently. Not that it'd be so terribly bad if i had to move to keep my job, or move to find a different one, but in spite of everything i rather like it here. But then, that's life i guess.

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    Shog9 wrote: But then, that's life i guess. Sure but might not neccesarily be the best thing. I have been wondering of late wether all this huge mega corporation deal is really helping us any. So little personal care anymore. Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. Every shot has to be carefully and lovingly composed and crafted. And it has made me feel that we have lost the craftmans pride. A lot of Zen And The Art Of... is about this.

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    lauren wrote: theyre making a movie about me "confessions of a dangerous bitch" (hey! she said it, not me)

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      Yeah, yeah, the country's going to hell, Budweiser sucks, and South Africa owns Miller. Pass the Canadian beer so i can forget about this for a bit...

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      I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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        I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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        KaЯl wrote: What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". Perhaps this is a bit unfair to some of the better vintage piss out there, but...

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          Shog9 wrote: But then, that's life i guess. Sure but might not neccesarily be the best thing. I have been wondering of late wether all this huge mega corporation deal is really helping us any. So little personal care anymore. Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. Every shot has to be carefully and lovingly composed and crafted. And it has made me feel that we have lost the craftmans pride. A lot of Zen And The Art Of... is about this.

          Paul Watson
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          Cape Town, South Africa

          lauren wrote: theyre making a movie about me "confessions of a dangerous bitch" (hey! she said it, not me)

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          Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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            I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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            drinking Bud makes me nervous, and a little ill. why? because the only time i drink it is when i'm at a party with a keg. i just know (from years of experience) that i'm going to be drinking far too much of the stuff (and probably throwing it back up in the bathroom). yuck. true. -c


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              Shog9 wrote: South Africa owns Miller :-D :-D ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: And we just go the contract to do their intranet. SAB Millers. Sweet! Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project.

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              Paul Watson wrote: Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project. Don't touch it!!! That's the worst beer ever made, even worse than Foster's! Pour it on a houseplant you don't like instead... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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                Shog9 wrote: they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accountants have been replaced by machines? I never noticed the difference! Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                  Shog9 wrote: they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accountants have been replaced by machines? I never noticed the difference! Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                  Roger Wright wrote: Same personality, management skills, hobbies, conversational abilities... Hmm, now that you mention it, i may have noticed ears on one of the machines before it bored me to sleep... :suss:

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                    KaЯl wrote: What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". Perhaps this is a bit unfair to some of the better vintage piss out there, but...

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                    Shog9 wrote: Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". :wtf::omg: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis :eek:?


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                      Shog9 wrote: Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". :wtf::omg: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis :eek:?


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                      KaЯl wrote: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis ? Far too often, yes. Generally in the form of something called "Bud Lite". They put it in cans similar to those surrounding Budweiser to make you think it's beer, but the trivial observation that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body reveals the truth. :|

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                        KaЯl wrote: So, you drink "standard" piss on regular basis ? Far too often, yes. Generally in the form of something called "Bud Lite". They put it in cans similar to those surrounding Budweiser to make you think it's beer, but the trivial observation that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body reveals the truth. :|

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                        Shog9 wrote: that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body it's a danger to the environment - it cannot be broken down. a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. -c


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                          I tried Budweiser once. What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? I know, i know, taste and colors are subjects that cannot be discussed


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                          try the original (Czech) Bud for enlightment ;)


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                            Shog9 wrote: that it doesn't change upon passing through one's body it's a danger to the environment - it cannot be broken down. a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. -c


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                            Chris Losinger wrote: a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. :eek::eek::eek: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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                              Paul Watson wrote: Wherever I go there are not many people who actually care for what they produce, they just care for the salary and lifestyle the salary can bring, if it means a crap product then no problem. And of course this hurts the product as well as production efficiency - there's little doubt someone who knows/cares about what they're doing will do a better job, no matter how simple you make the task. Stupid, greedy bastards... Paul Watson wrote: Don't groan, but with photography there is no mass mechanization possible. *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm[^] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too...

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                              Shog9 wrote: *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm\[^\] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accounting and photography are, well, a tad different. If they had any similarities I would not be so into photography. One is a art, the other is not. This is why you cannot mechanize it. That robot is quaint and I am sure takes wonderful wedding photographs... but wedding photographs are forumalic and hardly art. You don't see wedding photographs being exhibited except by proud, yet misguided, parents. The very best photographs are the ones that break all the rules, all the rules that that robot is following and would never break because it does not have creativity. One day an AI infused robot surely will break through and take artful photographs, but then it won't be mechanization, it will be creativity all over again. Interesting link though :)

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                              lauren wrote: theyre making a movie about me "confessions of a dangerous bitch" (hey! she said it, not me)

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                                Paul Watson wrote: Might get a case or two of beer at the end of the project. Don't touch it!!! That's the worst beer ever made, even worse than Foster's! Pour it on a houseplant you don't like instead... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                                Roger Wright wrote: Don't touch it!!! That's the worst beer ever made, even worse than Foster's! I have tried Millers and must agree. I will be sure to get good South African beer at the end of the project. Roger Wright wrote: Pour it on a houseplant you don't like instead... I love all my houseplants... but they still die on me. *sigh* I think it is because I keep trying to sing Rachmaninov to them instead of playing them the tape.

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                                  Roger Wright wrote: Don't touch it!!! That's the worst beer ever made, even worse than Foster's! I have tried Millers and must agree. I will be sure to get good South African beer at the end of the project. Roger Wright wrote: Pour it on a houseplant you don't like instead... I love all my houseplants... but they still die on me. *sigh* I think it is because I keep trying to sing Rachmaninov to them instead of playing them the tape.

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: I keep trying to sing Rachmaninov to them instead of playing them the tape. Bad move. Practice on the cat before you subject your plants to it. If the cat doesn't leave home, you have a fair chance of keeping the plants alive.:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                                    Shog9 wrote: *cough* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2198233.stm\[^\] Not to diss your hobby (i love good photographs), but they said pretty much the same thing about accountants at one point too... Accounting and photography are, well, a tad different. If they had any similarities I would not be so into photography. One is a art, the other is not. This is why you cannot mechanize it. That robot is quaint and I am sure takes wonderful wedding photographs... but wedding photographs are forumalic and hardly art. You don't see wedding photographs being exhibited except by proud, yet misguided, parents. The very best photographs are the ones that break all the rules, all the rules that that robot is following and would never break because it does not have creativity. One day an AI infused robot surely will break through and take artful photographs, but then it won't be mechanization, it will be creativity all over again. Interesting link though :)

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Accounting and photography are, well, a tad different. If they had any similarities I would not be so into photography. One is a art, the other is not. This is why you cannot mechanize it. They are quite different, i'll agree. But that's not quite what i was getting at - all joking aside, there are still human accountants around. The difference is, you won't find scores of them packed into tight rows carefully figuring up ledger sheets by hand; instead it's more likely there'll be one or two accountants using PCs. And anyone who's been paying attention to the news here in the States for the last year knows accountants *do* have quite a bit of creativity, though it tends to manifest itself in rather unpleasant ways... By all means, the role of the experienced photographer isn't gonna go away; but i could easily see them becoming more of a hobbiest / luxury for large publications sort of thing.

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                                      KaЯl wrote: What is the english expression for "Pisse d'âne" ("donkey pee") ? Well, most of us don't drink donkey pee on a regular basis, so we just say "Budweiser tastes like piss". Perhaps this is a bit unfair to some of the better vintage piss out there, but...

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                                      Ditch the Bud and grab Samuel Adams. Best american beer I've ever tried. It's infact one of the best beers I've ever tried. -- Eventhough the forrest is full of trees, there's still no tree between the trees.

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                                        Chris Losinger wrote: a million years from now, someone will be drinking the exact same bud lite that you just whizzed away. :eek::eek::eek: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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                                        Makes you wonder what Guiness passed through, doesn't it? :~ -- Eventhough the forrest is full of trees, there's still no tree between the trees.

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                                          try the original (Czech) Bud for enlightment ;)


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                                          A bit better, but not much I'm afraid. -- Eventhough the forrest is full of trees, there's still no tree between the trees.

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