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  • T Timothy Carroll

    How I teach: BACK slash is near the BACKspace. Done.

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    Stefan_Lang
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    Hmm, on *my* keyboard it's next to the left shift key... ('/' is [shift]-7 on my keyboard, before you ask, or alternately on the numeric keypad (but don't think to make use of that, as some Laptops don't sport a numpad!) )

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

      \

      /

      Slide Slash

      Hill Slash

      Five Slash

      One Slash

      Negative Slash

      Positive Slash

      Fall Slash

      Rise Slash

      Other ideas?

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      Axim
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      \ / Hack & Slash ! ...now excuse me while I get a band-aid

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      • L Lost User

        As the backslash leans backwards and the forward slash leans forwards my proposal would be to tell them to stop being a retard.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        DragonsRightWing
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        ChrisElston wrote:

        As the backslash leans backwards and the forward slash leans forwards my proposal would be to tell them to stop being a retard.

        While I understand that English is the trade language of the day, the backslash only leans forward if it is facing the reader's right - if it is facing left, then the backslash leans forward (and obviously the forward slash leans backward.) It gets even worse if we include languages read top-to-bottom! To completely eliminate the possibility of confusion, some set of terms which is entirely absolute and non-relative must be constructed - which will, of course, entirely confuse everybody who already knows a slash from a backslash ...

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

          \

          /

          Slide Slash

          Hill Slash

          Five Slash

          One Slash

          Negative Slash

          Positive Slash

          Fall Slash

          Rise Slash

          Other ideas?

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          Stefan_Lang
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          I was about to suggest something along the lines of downslope|upslope, but after reading some of the comments about right to left reading I wondered if for these people that would work, since reading right to left implies a downward slope on '/' rather than upward... Referring to a clock's digits also doesn't seem right when there are so many ways to display time. It may work, but maybe it won't be easily grasped in some locales - I have no idea. The only thing I can think of that's universal, is mathematics: a mathematical 2D coordinate system typically uses a horizontal x-axis pointing to the right, and a vertical y axis pointing up. Graphs in a 2D coordinate systems are implicitely read left to right, in that a line coming from the upper left quadrant passing into the lower right is considered 'falling', or having a negative gradient, whereas a line running from the lower left to the upper right is considered to have a positive gradient. So we could call '\' downgrade and '/' upgrade. :cool: Ok, neg-gradient|pos-gradient would be more concise, but then not everyone's into math-speak. ;) Or maybe we just shorten this to down|up: we would loose the reference to math, but the only people potentially not getting it would be right-to-left readers, and I'm pretty sure they're more aware of that kind of interpretory problem than anyone else.

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

            \

            /

            Slide Slash

            Hill Slash

            Five Slash

            One Slash

            Negative Slash

            Positive Slash

            Fall Slash

            Rise Slash

            Other ideas?

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            DragonsRightWing
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            We could take a note from heraldry and go with: \ = "bend" / = "bend sinister", or just "sinister" ...

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            • S Stefan_Lang

              I'm not sure everyone can use those terms without a compass ;P (and then some may not even be able to if they have one...)

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              Yayozama
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              If someone can't get those terms without a compass, probably he doesn't need to know wich one is a backslash...

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                \

                /

                Slide Slash

                Hill Slash

                Five Slash

                One Slash

                Negative Slash

                Positive Slash

                Fall Slash

                Rise Slash

                Other ideas?

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                Jecc
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                \ : N-slash / : 7-slash Edit: better yet, Z-slash

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                  \

                  /

                  Slide Slash

                  Hill Slash

                  Five Slash

                  One Slash

                  Negative Slash

                  Positive Slash

                  Fall Slash

                  Rise Slash

                  Other ideas?

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  User 4049335
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                  #45

                  Uphill slash downhill slash

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                    \

                    /

                    Slide Slash

                    Hill Slash

                    Five Slash

                    One Slash

                    Negative Slash

                    Positive Slash

                    Fall Slash

                    Rise Slash

                    Other ideas?

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    TNCaver
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                    #46

                    It's simple. In English, we read from left to right, therefore, going right is going forward. That makes / the forward (leaning) slash, and \ the backslash. Renaming them will only spread the confusion.

                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                      \

                      /

                      Slide Slash

                      Hill Slash

                      Five Slash

                      One Slash

                      Negative Slash

                      Positive Slash

                      Fall Slash

                      Rise Slash

                      Other ideas?

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      T800G
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                      #47

                      I say we call it METAL! :) \m/

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                        \

                        /

                        Slide Slash

                        Hill Slash

                        Five Slash

                        One Slash

                        Negative Slash

                        Positive Slash

                        Fall Slash

                        Rise Slash

                        Other ideas?

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        Nikunj_Bhatt
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                        I read all the replies and also thought on RTL languages. Direction of writing could be different but not the direction itself. So, for everybody, right is right and left is left, top is top and bottom is bottom. Therefore, my suggestions are based on absolute directions: \ = TL (Top-Left) or LT (Left-Top) Slash / = BR (Bottom-Right) or RB (Right-Bottom) Slash However, more appropriate I think would be: / = NE (North-East) or EN (East-North) Slash \ = SW (North-West) or WN (West-North) Slash Or take the "North" common: / = E-Slash (NE Slash) \ = W-Slash (NW Slash) Also look at the keyboard; W and E keys are adjacent and W is at West side and E is at East side of each other!

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                        • T TNCaver

                          It's simple. In English, we read from left to right, therefore, going right is going forward. That makes / the forward (leaning) slash, and \ the backslash. Renaming them will only spread the confusion.

                          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          Yeah, that's how I like to think of it, though it does take the assumption that it's leaning and not swinging.

                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                            Yeah, that's how I like to think of it, though it does take the assumption that it's leaning and not swinging.

                            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                            TNCaver
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                            I never considered that someone might think of characters as hanging from a line of text, but that they are standing on the line. Funny how differently we all see the same things.

                            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                            • R Rajeev Jayaram

                              I remember it this way, bottom to top lean-forward, / - forward slash bottom to top lean-backward, \ - backslash

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                              PapaCraft
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                              I propose / Before \ After

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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                                \

                                /

                                Slide Slash

                                Hill Slash

                                Five Slash

                                One Slash

                                Negative Slash

                                Positive Slash

                                Fall Slash

                                Rise Slash

                                Other ideas?

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                yacCarsten
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                                An old work colleague used to say / - slash \ - slosh

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  A coworker was recently confused about which slash was the backslash and which was the forward slash. I propose we rename them, perhaps to one of these:

                                  \

                                  /

                                  Slide Slash

                                  Hill Slash

                                  Five Slash

                                  One Slash

                                  Negative Slash

                                  Positive Slash

                                  Fall Slash

                                  Rise Slash

                                  Other ideas?

                                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                  dgcphfdgcphf
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                                  I'm invoking gravity and english syntax. The falling forwards slash and the falling backwards slash.

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                                  • T Timothy Carroll

                                    How I teach: BACK slash is near the BACKspace. Done.

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    #54

                                    On my keyboard '/' is just to the left of the right shift key and '\' is on the right of the right shift key

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                                    N M , . / SHIFT \

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                                    • N Nikunj_Bhatt

                                      I read all the replies and also thought on RTL languages. Direction of writing could be different but not the direction itself. So, for everybody, right is right and left is left, top is top and bottom is bottom. Therefore, my suggestions are based on absolute directions: \ = TL (Top-Left) or LT (Left-Top) Slash / = BR (Bottom-Right) or RB (Right-Bottom) Slash However, more appropriate I think would be: / = NE (North-East) or EN (East-North) Slash \ = SW (North-West) or WN (West-North) Slash Or take the "North" common: / = E-Slash (NE Slash) \ = W-Slash (NW Slash) Also look at the keyboard; W and E keys are adjacent and W is at West side and E is at East side of each other!

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                                      Steve Mayfield
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                                      my keyboard orientation: W is on the south side and E is on the North side :sigh:

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                                      • R RogelioP EX DE HL

                                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                        Other ideas?

                                        \ Wax on / Wax off -- RP

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        You wax off leaning forward rather than leaning back? Tiny monitor? Low volume? :omg:

                                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                        • E englebart

                                          Some of your names are heavily biased toward left to right reading direction. If you are proposing new names, make them bidi agnostic. Remember that < is "greater than" for right to left readers. a < b "b is greater than a". How about / web slash, internet slash \ Windows slash If only keyboard makers would standardize and put them on the same key! Then we could have / - slash \ - shift+slash My nomenclature is / - slash (divide slash if other party is a programmer) \ - back slash Deep thought: Do right to left readers use left to right URLs?

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          englebart wrote:

                                          Some of your   names are heavily biased toward left to right reading direction

                                          Are there variants of English that use right to left reading? Presumably different languages would have different names for the same character.

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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