Cable uncapping, ethical or not ?
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Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
In Brazil, there's a law against telecommunication abuse. And here there was two guys who went to jail because of cable modem uncapping. Uncapping does not steal bandwidth from the cable company, only from your neighboors. A lawyer is more expensive than broadband. Much more. :) I see dumb people
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Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
i cant really imagine what u could use the extra bandwidth for and the punishments are very steep ... first off u get blacklisted by all the cable providers ... second off u could have to pay for the extra bandwidth u used ... third off u might get criminal charges laid against u i wouldnt think it worth it for the "reward"
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Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
1 - As far as I am aware, it is not possible to uncap the speed settings of a DOCSIS compliant cable mode. All these settings are controlled at the head end and supplied to the modem on startup. I know several folks that have tried this with DOCSIS compliant equipment and it never worked. I hade heard there were tricks that you could pull with running a local TFTP server and various other things... 2 - I know of a few folks that had accomplished this with non-DOCSIS equipment several years ago and were surfing at great speeds, for a while, until the cable company got wind of it and quite unceremoniously cut their service due to restrictions in their TOS agreement. The same goes with people that have been caught running servers by the way. I think that if you want more speed, sign up with a service that provides a matrix type of SLA. You end up paying more, but you will be guaranteed the service level that you pay for.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall."
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
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1 - As far as I am aware, it is not possible to uncap the speed settings of a DOCSIS compliant cable mode. All these settings are controlled at the head end and supplied to the modem on startup. I know several folks that have tried this with DOCSIS compliant equipment and it never worked. I hade heard there were tricks that you could pull with running a local TFTP server and various other things... 2 - I know of a few folks that had accomplished this with non-DOCSIS equipment several years ago and were surfing at great speeds, for a while, until the cable company got wind of it and quite unceremoniously cut their service due to restrictions in their TOS agreement. The same goes with people that have been caught running servers by the way. I think that if you want more speed, sign up with a service that provides a matrix type of SLA. You end up paying more, but you will be guaranteed the service level that you pay for.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall."
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
Ray Cassick wrote: I think that if you want more speed, sign up with a service that provides a matrix type of SLA. You end up paying more, but you will be guaranteed the service level that you pay for. But, then, he wouldn't be stealing anything, so, where's the fun ? ;) I see dumb people
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Ray Cassick wrote: I think that if you want more speed, sign up with a service that provides a matrix type of SLA. You end up paying more, but you will be guaranteed the service level that you pay for. But, then, he wouldn't be stealing anything, so, where's the fun ? ;) I see dumb people
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Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall."
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
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Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
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Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
I haven't read your service agreement, but as long as it sdoesn't mention specify a minimum of d/l speed, I assume you pay for what you get, not more. Did you specifically shop around for a provider that is renowned for high speed, or did you think "Wow! Cable access for $42"? So the topic ain't that interesting at all: "If you have to ask, it's not legal." The minimum punishment to expect is immediate cancellation of your agreement, and, if they need an example, you might face charges of breaking their security yadda yadda, cybercrime and all the other funky stuff. If you noticed, most advanced countries recently did tweak these laws - not in your favor. And once lawyers get their hands on it it doesn't matter that you technically walked through an open barn door. Further some very advanced countries recently rediscovered the "working for the Klassenfeind" crime as a convenient accusal. It's defintely illegal (unless specifically allowed in the service agreement). It's definitely immoral, because you create an disadvantage for those that don't have your technical skills. OTOH it would put some darwinian pressure on both the provider and the cracknically challenged. And, if people wouldn't break the law from time to time, we'd still have the jus primae noctis. So take your choice (if you intend to), but don't break their system and tell yourself "they virtually wanted me to." :rose:
It's a royal pain to watch a sex drugs and rock'n'roll design decay into an aids crack and techno implementation [sighist] [Agile Programming] [doxygen]
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I haven't read your service agreement, but as long as it sdoesn't mention specify a minimum of d/l speed, I assume you pay for what you get, not more. Did you specifically shop around for a provider that is renowned for high speed, or did you think "Wow! Cable access for $42"? So the topic ain't that interesting at all: "If you have to ask, it's not legal." The minimum punishment to expect is immediate cancellation of your agreement, and, if they need an example, you might face charges of breaking their security yadda yadda, cybercrime and all the other funky stuff. If you noticed, most advanced countries recently did tweak these laws - not in your favor. And once lawyers get their hands on it it doesn't matter that you technically walked through an open barn door. Further some very advanced countries recently rediscovered the "working for the Klassenfeind" crime as a convenient accusal. It's defintely illegal (unless specifically allowed in the service agreement). It's definitely immoral, because you create an disadvantage for those that don't have your technical skills. OTOH it would put some darwinian pressure on both the provider and the cracknically challenged. And, if people wouldn't break the law from time to time, we'd still have the jus primae noctis. So take your choice (if you intend to), but don't break their system and tell yourself "they virtually wanted me to." :rose:
It's a royal pain to watch a sex drugs and rock'n'roll design decay into an aids crack and techno implementation [sighist] [Agile Programming] [doxygen]
peterchen wrote: cracknically Have you submitted this to Pseudodictionary.com[^]? It deserves to be immortalized! Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003 -
Hi All, Wondering what your opinion is to people who uncap cable modems. I haven't read my service agreement yet, but if it doesn't specify a limit on d/l speed, then I assume, since you are paying for a service you can take advantage of the service in full. I haven't done this, at least not until I review my service agreement. However, I think it is an interesting topic. Is it right or wrong? What is the punishment, anybody have any experience/stories ? Good Day!
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?
Clear this up for me, will ya? How do you figure the d/l speed of your cable modem is the bootleneck? More likely, you'll find it is your ISP's other equipment that is throttling yours and others bandwidth. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.
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i cant really imagine what u could use the extra bandwidth for and the punishments are very steep ... first off u get blacklisted by all the cable providers ... second off u could have to pay for the extra bandwidth u used ... third off u might get criminal charges laid against u i wouldnt think it worth it for the "reward"
i cant really imagine what u could use the extra bandwidth for Hmmm... well I can... Think full screen movies at 1024X768... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
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peterchen wrote: cracknically Have you submitted this to Pseudodictionary.com[^]? It deserves to be immortalized! Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003 -
Clear this up for me, will ya? How do you figure the d/l speed of your cable modem is the bootleneck? More likely, you'll find it is your ISP's other equipment that is throttling yours and others bandwidth. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Those leaks are driving me crazy! How does one finds a memory leak in a garbage collected environment ??! Daniel Turini Nov. 2, 2002.
Well, I am not going to uncap, I just wanted to see if it was possible through the settings of the DOCSIS cable modem. Anyhow, I pulled the binary settings file and decoded it, there are settings for max download and upload. You can change the settings, encode back to binary, then put back on server. anyhow, I think it can be done, but I am not messing with it. My speed is fine.
R.Bischoff | C++ .NET, Kommst du mit?