There is no hope II
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that:
-First man in the space was American.The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was. I remember the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about. Sad. Most Americans also think that Henry Ford invented the automobile...
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
The americans also think that the Wright brothers[^] invented the airplane, where Brazilians think that Santos Dumont[^] invented it. the truth depends on what is convenient, all two just forget about Leonardo da Vinci[^]
Wikipedia wrote:
For much of his life, Leonardo was fascinated by the phenomenon of flight, producing many studies of the flight of birds, including his c. 1505 Codex on the Flight of Birds, as well as plans for several flying machines, including a light hang glider and a machine resembling a helicopter.[17] The British television station Channel Four commissioned a documentary Leonardo's Dream Machines, for broadcast in 2003. Leonardo's machines were built and tested according to his original designs.[98] Some of those designs proved a success, whilst others fared less well when practically tested.
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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It happens. I was told told that ladybugs gain one extra dot for every year they live, that Fawns grow into Red Deer and then into Moose, that ponies grow into horses, that you can't subtract a greater number from a smaller one and that all numbers can be written as fractions. [not an exhaustive list] So elephant that. You might as well teach the kid not to believe anything the teacher says. Of course that turns school into a prison, but that seems to be its goal anyway.
harold aptroot wrote:
that all numbers can be written as fractions.
actually... 1515818741514541/1 is technically a fraction ;P
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that:
-First man in the space was American.The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was. I remember the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about. Sad. Most Americans also think that Henry Ford invented the automobile...
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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harold aptroot wrote:
that all numbers can be written as fractions.
actually... 1515818741514541/1 is technically a fraction ;P
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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Now you can sue to school system for forcing political view on your daughter! On a more serious note, I ran into the same problem multiple times in school, including a math(s) teacher who insisted a year has 367 days.
The guy who taught the Discrete Math class at my college ignored parentheses in some equations. :sigh:
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that:
-First man in the space was American.The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was. I remember the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about. Sad. Most Americans also think that Henry Ford invented the automobile...
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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2 * sqrt(2) / 2is ;P the trick is that all numbers are divisible by one, and that dividing a number by one doesn't change nothing, so you can always write X = X/1, so any number can be write like a fraction, if this is util, depends on the situation... but, one day some teacher saw to me that sqrt(-1) doesn't exists, then, one day 5 years later, i was meeting my friend, sir "i" (sqrt(-1)) :doh:I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that:
-First man in the space was American.The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was. I remember the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about. Sad. Most Americans also think that Henry Ford invented the automobile...
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
My UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR who taught something like the influence of internet on society didn't know how the internet worked... When he couldn't load a flash app because the schools computer didn't allow it a student asked if the thing the teacher wanted to show was a movie. The teacher answered positive, so the student told him to go to youtube. Splendid idea the teacher said and went to youtube (what was the link again?) and then played the 'movie' on youtube. He tried clicking the movie (and at first thought it mattered) when suddenly he noticed things were not as they should be. Turned out the app the teacher wanted to show reacted to mouse clicks. So does youtube, but the reaction is pretty different :) This is a professor in his area of expertise, being internet... If a professor in internet influence is unfamiliar with one of the biggest websites on the web, how the hell could he teach us, a generation that grew up with the internet!? This was just one, but more of them were like that. For example, we had to read a book on how people behave on the internet. The professor did a 'study' to reactions on youtube and such sites and whatnot. While reading I kept on thinking "Duh, this is what I do and see every day..." Yours is an extreme case. The teacher could've found the answer on google or wikipedia in just a few seconds... And not recognizing a Soviet flag is just plain stupid. Still, teachers are also only human :sigh:
Alexander DiMauro wrote:
I weep for the future...
Then I'll weep for the past and present...
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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The americans also think that the Wright brothers[^] invented the airplane, where Brazilians think that Santos Dumont[^] invented it. the truth depends on what is convenient, all two just forget about Leonardo da Vinci[^]
Wikipedia wrote:
For much of his life, Leonardo was fascinated by the phenomenon of flight, producing many studies of the flight of birds, including his c. 1505 Codex on the Flight of Birds, as well as plans for several flying machines, including a light hang glider and a machine resembling a helicopter.[17] The British television station Channel Four commissioned a documentary Leonardo's Dream Machines, for broadcast in 2003. Leonardo's machines were built and tested according to his original designs.[98] Some of those designs proved a success, whilst others fared less well when practically tested.
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
Sentenryu wrote:
The americans also think that the Wright brothers[^] invented the airplane, where Brazilians think that Santos Dumont[^] invented it.
Yes, I'm sure many countries have their 'legends' that have varying degrees of truth. Since I am from the United States, I am most familiar with the ones here. But, it would be interesting to learn similar 'legends' from other countries!
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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2 * sqrt(2) / 2is ;P the trick is that all numbers are divisible by one, and that dividing a number by one doesn't change nothing, so you can always write X = X/1, so any number can be write like a fraction, if this is util, depends on the situation... but, one day some teacher saw to me that sqrt(-1) doesn't exists, then, one day 5 years later, i was meeting my friend, sir "i" (sqrt(-1)) :doh:I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
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Alexander DiMauro wrote:
The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was.
Hell, I even know who Laika was.
No dogs or cats are in the classroom. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
Well, yes, but I expect the average 'CodeProject' poster to have more knowledge than the average person. Right? :cool:
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Well, yes, but I expect the average 'CodeProject' poster to have more knowledge than the average person. Right? :cool:
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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My former classmates who became teachers were mostly "C" students who wanted their summers free. :doh:
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My UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR who taught something like the influence of internet on society didn't know how the internet worked... When he couldn't load a flash app because the schools computer didn't allow it a student asked if the thing the teacher wanted to show was a movie. The teacher answered positive, so the student told him to go to youtube. Splendid idea the teacher said and went to youtube (what was the link again?) and then played the 'movie' on youtube. He tried clicking the movie (and at first thought it mattered) when suddenly he noticed things were not as they should be. Turned out the app the teacher wanted to show reacted to mouse clicks. So does youtube, but the reaction is pretty different :) This is a professor in his area of expertise, being internet... If a professor in internet influence is unfamiliar with one of the biggest websites on the web, how the hell could he teach us, a generation that grew up with the internet!? This was just one, but more of them were like that. For example, we had to read a book on how people behave on the internet. The professor did a 'study' to reactions on youtube and such sites and whatnot. While reading I kept on thinking "Duh, this is what I do and see every day..." Yours is an extreme case. The teacher could've found the answer on google or wikipedia in just a few seconds... And not recognizing a Soviet flag is just plain stupid. Still, teachers are also only human :sigh:
Alexander DiMauro wrote:
I weep for the future...
Then I'll weep for the past and present...
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Naerling wrote:
If a professor in internet influence is unfamiliar with one of the biggest websites on the web, how the hell could he teach us, a generation that grew up with the internet!?
Simple. Take your tuition and hand out grades. Did you tell him to swallow some coke?
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Naerling wrote:
If a professor in internet influence is unfamiliar with one of the biggest websites on the web, how the hell could he teach us, a generation that grew up with the internet!?
Simple. Take your tuition and hand out grades. Did you tell him to swallow some coke?
wizardzz wrote:
Did you tell him to swallow some coke?
I told him to swallow some cock! But he couldn't stand the feathers... Edit: Cock! Chicken! Rooster? That's pretty discriminating... :^)
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
} -
As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
curious, did you talk to the teacher about this incident? If so, what did she/he have to say about it? If not, being the internet and all, I'm gonna have to go with the "kids NEVER lie to thier parents about what happened at school" :sarcasm: response. My guess is the situation went down something like this: Teacher: "Is that the Ukraine flag?" Student: "I think so." Teacher: "Lets double-check." (looks it up in the book) Student: "OK" (redos flag) Parent: "Thats not the right flag." Student: "I told the teacher that!"
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curious, did you talk to the teacher about this incident? If so, what did she/he have to say about it? If not, being the internet and all, I'm gonna have to go with the "kids NEVER lie to thier parents about what happened at school" :sarcasm: response. My guess is the situation went down something like this: Teacher: "Is that the Ukraine flag?" Student: "I think so." Teacher: "Lets double-check." (looks it up in the book) Student: "OK" (redos flag) Parent: "Thats not the right flag." Student: "I told the teacher that!"
kinar wrote:
curious, did you talk to the teacher about this incident?
No, I didn't. My wife and I just kind of shook our heads and laughed it off. Causing a scene in a 2nd grade classroom...not worth it!
kinar wrote:
Teacher: "Is that the Ukraine flag?"
Student: "I think so."My daughter is well aware of what the flag looks like, she wouldn't have just said 'I think so'. She's a bit stubborn...like her dad. ;)
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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What's an encyclopedia? :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
