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  • K kinar

    curious, did you talk to the teacher about this incident? If so, what did she/he have to say about it? If not, being the internet and all, I'm gonna have to go with the "kids NEVER lie to thier parents about what happened at school" :sarcasm: response. My guess is the situation went down something like this: Teacher: "Is that the Ukraine flag?" Student: "I think so." Teacher: "Lets double-check." (looks it up in the book) Student: "OK" (redos flag) Parent: "Thats not the right flag." Student: "I told the teacher that!"

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    Alexander DiMauro
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    kinar wrote:

    curious, did you talk to the teacher about this incident?

    No, I didn't. My wife and I just kind of shook our heads and laughed it off. Causing a scene in a 2nd grade classroom...not worth it!

    kinar wrote:

    Teacher: "Is that the Ukraine flag?"
    Student: "I think so."

    My daughter is well aware of what the flag looks like, she wouldn't have just said 'I think so'. She's a bit stubborn...like her dad. ;)

    I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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      What's an encyclopedia? :)

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      lewax00
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      It's the analog version of Wikipedia I think.

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      • R RJOberg

        Alexander DiMauro wrote:

        no idea who Yuri Gagarin was

        I know who he was... however,

        Alexander DiMauro wrote:

        the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about

        I would have the exact same look on my face. I don't keep track of every date for every event out there. Like "Happy Gastav Adolfsdagen!" unless you were Swedish, you would likely have no idea what I was talking about.

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        RJOberg wrote:

        Like "Happy Gastav Adolfsdagen!" unless you were Swedish, you would likely have no idea what I was talking about.

        It's just around for the bakeries to sell more cakes[^].

        Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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          RJOberg wrote:

          Like "Happy Gastav Adolfsdagen!" unless you were Swedish, you would likely have no idea what I was talking about.

          It's just around for the bakeries to sell more cakes[^].

          Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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          RJOberg
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          Just like more bacon, there is nothing wrong with more cake... or more chocolate. Lutfisk on the other hand, even just a little bit, there is a lot wrong with.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            wizardzz wrote:

            Did you tell him to swallow some coke?

            I told him to swallow some cock! But he couldn't stand the feathers... Edit: Cock! Chicken! Rooster? That's pretty discriminating... :^)

            It's an OO world.

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            wizardzz
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            Censorship!!@#$@$#@

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            • A Alexander DiMauro

              As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:

              I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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              JimmyRopes
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              Alexander DiMauro wrote:

              I weep for the future...

              I don't. The 8 year old knew better than the teacher.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                The guy who taught the Discrete Math class at my college ignored parentheses in some equations. :sigh:

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                That gives me an idea for a new esolang ...

                062142174041062102

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                  My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that: -First man in the space was American. -The Periodic Table of Elements was created from the ancient Greeks. :sigh: But this is not a big deal. She used to have magnificent teachers so we can’t make generalizations for all of them because of just one or two little ignorant individuals.

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                  The Periodic Table of Elements was created from the ancient Greeks

                  ancient Greek periodic table - simple, 3 elements - food, wine, wenches ! 'g'

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                    Actually, no. A fraction[^] is only a fraction if the numerator and the denominator are both integers and the denominator isn't zero. So x/1 isn't a fraction unless x is an integer.

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                    (∞ √2) / ∞

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    • M MidwestLimey

                      That gives me an idea for a new esolang ...

                      062142174041062102

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                      lewax00
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                      A language exactly like Lisp, except the parenthesis are ignored? :laugh:

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                      • R RJOberg

                        Just like more bacon, there is nothing wrong with more cake... or more chocolate. Lutfisk on the other hand, even just a little bit, there is a lot wrong with.

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                        RJOberg wrote:

                        Lutfisk

                        X| X| X| When mom would cook that stuff for my old man, me and my siblings would run for the nether-reaches of the house. I still shudder at the thought of the stench.

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                        • R RJOberg

                          Just like more bacon, there is nothing wrong with more cake... or more chocolate. Lutfisk on the other hand, even just a little bit, there is a lot wrong with.

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                          Espen Harlinn
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                          RJOberg wrote:

                          Lutfisk

                          Lutefisk is a treat when prepared correctly. It should NOT resemble a lump of jelly. It's also customary to have aquavite with the dish. Sometimes in rather large quantities, as this really is required when the dish isn't perfectly prepared.

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                          • A Alexander DiMauro

                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            My step-daughter (5th grade) learned from her social studies “old-school” teacher that:
                            -First man in the space was American.

                            The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was. I remember the looks on people's faces when I said 'Happy Yuri's Night!' last April, and no one had any idea what I was talking about. Sad. Most Americans also think that Henry Ford invented the automobile...

                            I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                            Espen Harlinn
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                            Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                            The scary part is that a lot of Americans have no idea who Yuri Gagarin was

                            Here is an illuminating repost[^].

                            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile

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                            • W wizardzz

                              Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                              3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags.

                              Goddamnit! That salesman said I could always count on these!

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                              Espen Harlinn
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                              When I went to gymnasium[^] - we had an encyclopedia that dated back to WW II - it had some rather unflattering things in it about jews (and most other races/cultures). I would have expected that they had gotten around to replacing that by 1985.

                              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile

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                              • E Espen Harlinn

                                RJOberg wrote:

                                Lutfisk

                                Lutefisk is a treat when prepared correctly. It should NOT resemble a lump of jelly. It's also customary to have aquavite with the dish. Sometimes in rather large quantities, as this really is required when the dish isn't perfectly prepared.

                                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile

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                                RJOberg
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                                My grandmother would make it for my grandfather. The smell was terrible. It looked like pieces of very flakey whitefish, tasted somewhat but not entirely like how paste smelled, along with salt, pepper, and a lot of butter. While everything else she cooked was fabulous, it is possible she didn't know how to make it.

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                                  My grandmother would make it for my grandfather. The smell was terrible. It looked like pieces of very flakey whitefish, tasted somewhat but not entirely like how paste smelled, along with salt, pepper, and a lot of butter. While everything else she cooked was fabulous, it is possible she didn't know how to make it.

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                                  Espen Harlinn
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                                  RJOberg wrote:

                                  it is possible she didn't know how to make it

                                  Most likely - few can, and I'm not one of them ;) Going to a good restaurant helps a lot.

                                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile

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                                  • A Alexander DiMauro

                                    As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:

                                    I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                                    Espen Harlinn
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                                    This[^] may lift your spirit, or perhaps not :laugh:

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      The guy who taught the Discrete Math class at my college ignored parentheses in some equations. :sigh:

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                                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                      The guy who taught the Discrete Math class at my college ignored parentheses in some equations. :sigh:

                                      Just like you ignored the S in Maths.

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                      • A Alexander DiMauro

                                        As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:

                                        I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                                        Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                                        25+ year old encyclopedia

                                        Do they have computers at your daughter's school? Has the teacher heard of the net and wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ukraine[^]

                                        Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                                        • A Alexander DiMauro

                                          As a continuation to this previous post by Henry Minute on 4 May, 2012[^], I offer more evidence that there is no hope for the future: My 8 year old daughter was doing a class project in which she had to pick one country from her ancestry and make a presentation. My wife's family is Ukrainian, so she picked Ukraine. Fast forward to the final day of the project, they had to make flags of their country in class. My daughter, who has seen a Ukrainian flag hundreds of times, and even owns one, tells her teacher that the flag is blue and yellow. The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says 'No, this book says it looks like this' and, despite my daughter telling her over and over again that it is blue and yellow, she FORCES her to make the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic flag instead, which is basically the Soviet flag with a blue stripe on the bottom. 1. She wouldn't listen to my daughter who told her over and over again that she knew how the flag looks. 2. She didn't even recognize the fact that the flag is basically the soviet flag, and the Soviet Union hasn't existed for 20+ years. Even during Soviet times, that flag was rarely seen. 3. She thinks a 25+ year old encyclopedia still has up-to-date flags. This pretty much sums up this whole situation[^] LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU! I weep for the future... :doh: :wtf: :sigh:

                                          I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                                          Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                                          I weep for the future.

                                          So when you went to school were the teachers all perfect and fonts of knowledge? Certainly wasn't true when I went to school. And that was true of all education up through university graduate courses. Of course when I went to school it was significantly harder to verify information for teachers and students.

                                          Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                                          The teacher looks in her 25+ year old encyclopedia and says

                                          So the only encyclopedia in the classroom is 25 years old and might even be the personal property of the teacher. Certainly seems possible that there might be more to blame in this case than the teacher, for example the fact that the school system doesn't provide more up to date materials. And given that you have a very specific vested interest in this I am curious as to exactly what you have done in the past year to improve the school?

                                          Alexander DiMauro wrote:

                                          LISTEN TO THE 8 YEAR OLD! SHE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU!

                                          So every time a single student in a class of perhaps 30 students (hopefully no more) says that the teacher is wrong the teacher should agree? Even when perhaps the best available source says otherwise?

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