999 mpg
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
not so fuel efficient “as advertised” . They are efficient in a very specific conditions.
This is my second hybrid and the first lived up to its billing and the second has exceeded expectations so far. Yes, the battery capacity did degrade slightly in winter, but not significant enough for me trade $50/month for $50/week in fuel cost.
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
not significant enough for me trade $50/month for $50/week in fuel cost
How much does the electricity cost? I'm guessing less, but I don't really know.
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I picked up a new car a few days ago. http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/[^] A few short trips around town gave me a reported 999 mpg. Without the engine ever starting. Out of EV mode it reports an average of 160 mpg so far. And no it isn't some slow speed snail. EV mode can get to 100kph and I can accelerate from a stop about the same as my Highlander. Of course the engine does kick on if I stump on the accelerator.
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
not significant enough for me trade $50/month for $50/week in fuel cost
How much does the electricity cost? I'm guessing less, but I don't really know.
Electricity is free, its the service you pay for :laugh: My bill is less then $100/month for the entire house full of modern electronic goodies so the vehicle charging will be a drop in the bucket and certainly less that fuel.
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I am impressed. Are sales of electrics/hybrids picking up in the US or are you out in front of the pack?
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Henry Minute wrote:
That's going to create one heck of a lot of jobs if they do
So it's not a bad idea then ;)
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Electricity is free, its the service you pay for :laugh: My bill is less then $100/month for the entire house full of modern electronic goodies so the vehicle charging will be a drop in the bucket and certainly less that fuel.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Mark Nischalke wrote:
Electricity is free, its the service you pay for
"I didn't kill him; the bullets and the fall did." :)
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I picked up a new car a few days ago. http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/[^] A few short trips around town gave me a reported 999 mpg. Without the engine ever starting. Out of EV mode it reports an average of 160 mpg so far. And no it isn't some slow speed snail. EV mode can get to 100kph and I can accelerate from a stop about the same as my Highlander. Of course the engine does kick on if I stump on the accelerator.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Of course you realize that it really is not 999 per gallon since that does not include the fuel required to create the electricity to recharge the batteries. Of course it is nice not needing to go the the gas station except on long trips.
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I picked up a new car a few days ago. http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/[^] A few short trips around town gave me a reported 999 mpg. Without the engine ever starting. Out of EV mode it reports an average of 160 mpg so far. And no it isn't some slow speed snail. EV mode can get to 100kph and I can accelerate from a stop about the same as my Highlander. Of course the engine does kick on if I stump on the accelerator.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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I picked up a new car a few days ago. http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/[^] A few short trips around town gave me a reported 999 mpg. Without the engine ever starting. Out of EV mode it reports an average of 160 mpg so far. And no it isn't some slow speed snail. EV mode can get to 100kph and I can accelerate from a stop about the same as my Highlander. Of course the engine does kick on if I stump on the accelerator.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
The Prius demonstrates what can easily be done with mass market automotive tech if you try. However, in one respect it's a bit of a throwback - it has two parallel drive trains (mechanical and electric), which significantly increases weight and therefore reduces efficiency. As a result it's also got a lot of unnecessary moving parts (gearbox, propshaft etc.) to maintain. Where hybrids are concerned I can't help thinking the way forward is a series hybrid drive train like that used in the Volt/Ampera - no gearbox, no propshaft - just a generator and traction motors. In traction applications that's been an established pattern since the 1940s, so the technique certainly has pedigree. Battery tech/lifetime/costs are another issue, but at least there's plenty of R&D going on in that area now. We'll see. At the end of the day these are all small but obvious steps towards reducing our dependency on the black stuff.
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Yes, the Model X with the wing doors is certainly intriguing.
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The Zurich showroom is RIGHT across the road from my workplace. http://goo.gl/maps/7K7M[^] At least I don't lack motivating influences. Fast cars and hot girls all over the place. It's a wonder I can concentrate at all in this freakin' town. Particularly in Summer... And to cap it all off, I saw my first Veyron in-the-flesh today as I shuffled moodily out for my lunchtime sambwidge. It is unbelievably pretty. The magazine pictures, even Top Gear does not do it justice. Is there a way to turn off envy/desire? A button somewhere I can press? I need one... I really would have a Tesla though, for the cleverness as much as the speed and looks. But it was a bit of a shock to see a Veyron bearing down on me....
I too dabbled in pacifism once.
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I picked up a new car a few days ago. http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/[^] A few short trips around town gave me a reported 999 mpg. Without the engine ever starting. Out of EV mode it reports an average of 160 mpg so far. And no it isn't some slow speed snail. EV mode can get to 100kph and I can accelerate from a stop about the same as my Highlander. Of course the engine does kick on if I stump on the accelerator.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.