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    stephen hazel
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    ok, i read in the ole codeproject email this... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/[^] I like c++ on win32 api. Is that so wroooong? So is this guy full of crap? Or is ms full of crap? Will visual c++ 2010 express at least be available for download still? Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux. But, mmm, in the end, I'll cling to win32's dead corpse if I have to... X|

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      ok, i read in the ole codeproject email this... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/[^] I like c++ on win32 api. Is that so wroooong? So is this guy full of crap? Or is ms full of crap? Will visual c++ 2010 express at least be available for download still? Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux. But, mmm, in the end, I'll cling to win32's dead corpse if I have to... X|

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      Nemanja Trifunovic
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      stephen.hazel wrote:

      stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux

      Linux is great for some purposes, but desktop development is not one of them.

      utf8-cpp

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        ok, i read in the ole codeproject email this... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/[^] I like c++ on win32 api. Is that so wroooong? So is this guy full of crap? Or is ms full of crap? Will visual c++ 2010 express at least be available for download still? Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux. But, mmm, in the end, I'll cling to win32's dead corpse if I have to... X|

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        Daniel Grunwald
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        The VS 2010 express editions will stay available. However, you won't get C++11 support that way (except for the tiny portions already supported in VS 2010), so staying with 2010 certainly isn't a long-term option. Hopefully MS will reconsider after the Win8 release, when they realize that Metro isn't wanted (except on tablets). On the .NET side, VS express users won't be able to use async/await (except for Metro development). Fortunately SharpDevelop 4.2 already supports async/await[^] ;)

        stephen.hazel wrote:

        Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux.

        I don't see Linux going anywhere on the desktop. But the number of Macs is going to increase dramatically if MS keeps screwing up.

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          ok, i read in the ole codeproject email this... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/[^] I like c++ on win32 api. Is that so wroooong? So is this guy full of crap? Or is ms full of crap? Will visual c++ 2010 express at least be available for download still? Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux. But, mmm, in the end, I'll cling to win32's dead corpse if I have to... X|

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          Jeremy Hutchinson
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          I have to think they will have to backtrack on this one. It seems like it's bad business for them, and there is some serious backlash building. Vote here[^] to suggest that the fix this.

          My Blog[^] Chess Tactics for WP7[^]

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            I have to think they will have to backtrack on this one. It seems like it's bad business for them, and there is some serious backlash building. Vote here[^] to suggest that the fix this.

            My Blog[^] Chess Tactics for WP7[^]

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            stephen hazel
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            well, i put in my 3 little votes fwiw...

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              I have to think they will have to backtrack on this one. It seems like it's bad business for them, and there is some serious backlash building. Vote here[^] to suggest that the fix this.

              My Blog[^] Chess Tactics for WP7[^]

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              Henry Minute
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              Voted.

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                ok, i read in the ole codeproject email this... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/[^] I like c++ on win32 api. Is that so wroooong? So is this guy full of crap? Or is ms full of crap? Will visual c++ 2010 express at least be available for download still? Honestly, stuff like this aaaaalmost makes me wanna give up on win32 and use linux. But, mmm, in the end, I'll cling to win32's dead corpse if I have to... X|

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                Jani Giannoudis
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                You have to be patient. Microsoft seems to be on alternating path:

                ... > XP (good) > Vista (scrap) > Win7 (good) > Win8 (scrap) > Win9 (hopefully good) > ...

                Cheers, Jani Giannoudis Meerazo.com - Resource Sharing Made Easy | Co-founder

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