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  • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

    first when a big idea came to your mind that sound like unique and special thing, you just got such a huge Excitement, gathering your stuff around your desk and just Go forward! after a few days you thinking about"maybe this is not just good enough". and maybe after a week or month you just GIVE UP! how really can we stay in our first mental mood? why many of us Having dealt with this issue?

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    You have to have faith in yourself and be able to pursue an idea to the very end (whatever that end may be). If your research concludes that the idea won't work, drop it and move on and, most importantly, never take anything personally. Never give up, ever and never get ground down. Elephant 'em all, is what I say.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

      first when a big idea came to your mind that sound like unique and special thing, you just got such a huge Excitement, gathering your stuff around your desk and just Go forward! after a few days you thinking about"maybe this is not just good enough". and maybe after a week or month you just GIVE UP! how really can we stay in our first mental mood? why many of us Having dealt with this issue?

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      wizardzz
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      Your doubt is caused by fear, fear of failing and the perceived embarrassment one assumes goes along with it. Face that fear full force. Also, I have found that a support group (friends, coworkers, collaborators) helps to re-motivate myself when I have doubts brewing. In the meantime, I'll be in a van, down by the river...

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        You have to have faith in yourself and be able to pursue an idea to the very end (whatever that end may be). If your research concludes that the idea won't work, drop it and move on and, most importantly, never take anything personally. Never give up, ever and never get ground down. Elephant 'em all, is what I say.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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        i got your advice!

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          Your doubt is caused by fear, fear of failing and the perceived embarrassment one assumes goes along with it. Face that fear full force. Also, I have found that a support group (friends, coworkers, collaborators) helps to re-motivate myself when I have doubts brewing. In the meantime, I'll be in a van, down by the river...

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          taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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          i am totally agree with you! but some times you stop like clock that out of battery! i think all off us need some help to re-motivate,back to real life, and find out whats we really matter for us!

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          • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

            first when a big idea came to your mind that sound like unique and special thing, you just got such a huge Excitement, gathering your stuff around your desk and just Go forward! after a few days you thinking about"maybe this is not just good enough". and maybe after a week or month you just GIVE UP! how really can we stay in our first mental mood? why many of us Having dealt with this issue?

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            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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            Speaking as someone who's been there and done it (and we're still going - 8 years later), the way to stay focused is to believe in yourself, listen to feedback and get to know like minded people who can inspire you and you can learn from. Don't be afraid to make mistakes either - that's part of the learning process. These days there are plenty of resources for new mISV people - e.g. the Business of Software forum[^] and group[^], the Association of Software Professionals[^] the European Software Conference[^], ISVCon[^] or the Business of Software Conference[^]. There are plenty of books and blogs too. But all of it is for nothing unless you can believe not just in your idea, but in yourself. Hang in there, and enjoy the ride!

            Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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            • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

              first when a big idea came to your mind that sound like unique and special thing, you just got such a huge Excitement, gathering your stuff around your desk and just Go forward! after a few days you thinking about"maybe this is not just good enough". and maybe after a week or month you just GIVE UP! how really can we stay in our first mental mood? why many of us Having dealt with this issue?

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              El_Codero
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              believe in your idea, listen to people, try to interpret the response of people/experts in your business correctly, don't care too much about "normal" people which absolutly have no idea from programming stuff/your work (try to explain it simply and with a bit humor what you're doing), GOOD friends, other active hobbies where you can work off, most important: you had to love your "job"/what you're doing, then you're able to work much for it. Good Luck;)

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                believe in your idea, listen to people, try to interpret the response of people/experts in your business correctly, don't care too much about "normal" people which absolutly have no idea from programming stuff/your work (try to explain it simply and with a bit humor what you're doing), GOOD friends, other active hobbies where you can work off, most important: you had to love your "job"/what you're doing, then you're able to work much for it. Good Luck;)

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                taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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                I think you have some bad memory of "normal" people like me! ;)

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                • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

                  I think you have some bad memory of "normal" people like me! ;)

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                  El_Codero
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                  haha no absolutly not :D. i love people and their (also my) mistakes ;). But for my expierience there are some people (more than you'll think) which are envious in some way. Sad but true...hope not in your enviroment ;)

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                  • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

                    first when a big idea came to your mind that sound like unique and special thing, you just got such a huge Excitement, gathering your stuff around your desk and just Go forward! after a few days you thinking about"maybe this is not just good enough". and maybe after a week or month you just GIVE UP! how really can we stay in our first mental mood? why many of us Having dealt with this issue?

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                    In most cases it's best just to skip that middle part. Nothing ventured, nothing lost. :-D Personally, when it comes to creating a "unique and special thing" it's basically just something for myself so I never worry about "not just good enough" -- only if it's good enough for my purpose (whatever the purpose is) with no consideration for whether or not it's good enough for anyone else. I also suggest you not think about making any money from your effort -- at least not until a few versions down the line. Is the idea and project so interesting to you that you're willing to distribute it for free?* Or are you simply hoping that a small effort will pay off big time? If the latter, then perhaps you need to rethink things. Furthermore, even if you do abandon the project, you should get something (library routines, useful classes, etc.) out of the experience. :thumbsup: * I've never sold anything I've written and only made a few things available to others.

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                      haha no absolutly not :D. i love people and their (also my) mistakes ;). But for my expierience there are some people (more than you'll think) which are envious in some way. Sad but true...hope not in your enviroment ;)

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                      taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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                      man now I Jealous to you! :-D because i wish people in my environment be envious! they even don't know what is mean of"programming". I swear to God that one day I was sitting in a taxi, and I start a conversation between me and taxi driver , after i say to him that i am a programmer , he thinking for a while and after that say:"you program for schools and uni quiz , right?" this is me after her question" :omg: "

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        In most cases it's best just to skip that middle part. Nothing ventured, nothing lost. :-D Personally, when it comes to creating a "unique and special thing" it's basically just something for myself so I never worry about "not just good enough" -- only if it's good enough for my purpose (whatever the purpose is) with no consideration for whether or not it's good enough for anyone else. I also suggest you not think about making any money from your effort -- at least not until a few versions down the line. Is the idea and project so interesting to you that you're willing to distribute it for free?* Or are you simply hoping that a small effort will pay off big time? If the latter, then perhaps you need to rethink things. Furthermore, even if you do abandon the project, you should get something (library routines, useful classes, etc.) out of the experience. :thumbsup: * I've never sold anything I've written and only made a few things available to others.

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                        taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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                        please speak in lower speed iam noting!:) very good thank you!

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                        • T taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani

                          man now I Jealous to you! :-D because i wish people in my environment be envious! they even don't know what is mean of"programming". I swear to God that one day I was sitting in a taxi, and I start a conversation between me and taxi driver , after i say to him that i am a programmer , he thinking for a while and after that say:"you program for schools and uni quiz , right?" this is me after her question" :omg: "

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                          El_Codero
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                          haha great story. it's often funny to talk to people about what you're doing. They're often think it's something like witchcrafting, don't know how creative writing code is (and designing of course).

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                            haha great story. it's often funny to talk to people about what you're doing. They're often think it's something like witchcrafting, don't know how creative writing code is (and designing of course).

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                            taha bahraminezhad Jooneghani
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                            man my brain is working like factory with high quality product but with 2kbps connection speed...,oh its better to shut down the factory! :laugh: i am planing a social network with a unique goal! and online gaming like travian.com!

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                              In most cases it's best just to skip that middle part. Nothing ventured, nothing lost. :-D Personally, when it comes to creating a "unique and special thing" it's basically just something for myself so I never worry about "not just good enough" -- only if it's good enough for my purpose (whatever the purpose is) with no consideration for whether or not it's good enough for anyone else. I also suggest you not think about making any money from your effort -- at least not until a few versions down the line. Is the idea and project so interesting to you that you're willing to distribute it for free?* Or are you simply hoping that a small effort will pay off big time? If the latter, then perhaps you need to rethink things. Furthermore, even if you do abandon the project, you should get something (library routines, useful classes, etc.) out of the experience. :thumbsup: * I've never sold anything I've written and only made a few things available to others.

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                              GuyThiebaut
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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              I also suggest you not think about making any money from your effort

                              I completely agree with this - money will generally come your way if you are seen to be dedicated, persistent in your efforts and innovative - a whole bunch of words I realise but I have direct experience of creating free software and some good things coming out of it(local newspaper articles, published in magazines, advertising revenue from google, a more highly paid job, being recognised for doing what you do out of inspiration etc.) If all you want you want is money then become an estate agent or lawyer... ;)

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                I also suggest you not think about making any money from your effort

                                I completely agree with this - money will generally come your way if you are seen to be dedicated, persistent in your efforts and innovative - a whole bunch of words I realise but I have direct experience of creating free software and some good things coming out of it(local newspaper articles, published in magazines, advertising revenue from google, a more highly paid job, being recognised for doing what you do out of inspiration etc.) If all you want you want is money then become an estate agent or lawyer... ;)

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                RugbyLeague
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                                That's similar to what I did - locked myself away for 6 months writing software - then took it to market, got some great reviews in trade mags, won a couple of industry awards, got some consultancy work out of it, sold enough copies to pay for itself then sold up and joined the company I sold to.

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