First Days of Programming
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So you typed in the hex programs from PC Magazine in edlin too? :beer: to checksums!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.
Ah, I remember those days :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Ah, I remember those days :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Memwies.... They could've at least embedded 5 1/4" floppies, damnit! Making us learn hex and all, dad gummit!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.
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So you typed in the hex programs from PC Magazine in edlin too? :beer: to checksums!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.
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To me the early days felt like this:
0000 F8 FF AE BE F8 00 5E 2E
0008 30 06 00 00 00 00 00 00Type it in on the hex keyboard, run it* and get a perfectly cleared memory Edit: I'm getting old. Forgot to decrement the register, but now the bug is fixed :) * not on a PC :)
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
First experience was Z80A assembler; I remember nothing of it. I do remember the opening quote of my very first Computer Science lecture [September 1883] at college - "If you decide to work in Computing you'll either lose your eyesight or become a drunk. Some mange both." Yes, I do wear glasses.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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"hex keypad for user interaction" - sick!! That would've saved me so much time...now I'm pissed! :mad: :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.
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First experience was Z80A assembler; I remember nothing of it. I do remember the opening quote of my very first Computer Science lecture [September 1883] at college - "If you decide to work in Computing you'll either lose your eyesight or become a drunk. Some mange both." Yes, I do wear glasses.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
very first Computer Science lecture [September 1883]
Well, Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace were not around then. Who delivered that lecture?
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
very first Computer Science lecture [September 1883]
Well, Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace were not around then. Who delivered that lecture?
I have two words for you. The second one is "off". I am younger than many here. Richard MC and Ol' 'Enry are both much older than what I is.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I have two words for you. The second one is "off". I am younger than many here. Richard MC and Ol' 'Enry are both much older than what I is.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
I have two words for you - "Thank you".
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"hex keypad for user interaction" - sick!! That would've saved me so much time...now I'm pissed! :mad: :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.
My IDE back then was simple graph paper and then I just had to enter the bytes. I think the first program I ever bought was a debugger that let you interrupt the running program at any breakpoint and then displayed the contents of the CPU registers on the screen. It could also let you proceed in single steps or run slowly (about one instruction per second) while letting you examine the registers. Still have it (on cassette tape).
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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To me the early days felt like this:
0000 F8 FF AE BE F8 00 5E 2E
0008 30 06 00 00 00 00 00 00Type it in on the hex keyboard, run it* and get a perfectly cleared memory Edit: I'm getting old. Forgot to decrement the register, but now the bug is fixed :) * not on a PC :)
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
My first program was in assembly on an IBM 1620, but we used an assembler to turn it into binary. I also recall putting the boot strap code for some of the Data General minis in with front panel switches. That was cool at the time.
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
