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  • A Albert Holguin

    You live and you learn... you can't let one stumble bring you down for good. ;)

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    Michael Sernal
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    my teammate said that things like this happens. but it just doesn't feel right, i mean it would be sick if i would just let somebody save my ass every time i'm in trouble right? is there something wrong with me?

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      boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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      charlieg
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      In a past long ago, I had a person, a business requirements analyst, attempt to make the transition into development. She beat her head against the wall for 4 days before she finally figured out the silly mistake she had made. When she mentioned the level of stress and ordeal she went through, I sad, "Well, that sometimes happens in development." She lost it. I mean, blew a fuse. I wasn't being mean, I was just acknowledging that rarely do you have hand holding (it's not in our nature as engineers/developers), which is the way your boss sounds. However, someone with a different perspective might be able to see the issue more easily. At some point, you keep slogging away. I certainly would not let it get you down. We've all been there. Just wait until you lock up in analysis-paralysis for a new design. :)

      Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      • M Michael Sernal

        boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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        SoMad
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        Sometimes there is a reason why the boss is the boss. It sounds to me like you are a fairly new developer with a team leader that has years and years of experience developing software. "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again" BTW, I think this post is a great example of what the Lounge was intended for. Soren Madsen

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        • M Michael Sernal

          my teammate said that things like this happens. but it just doesn't feel right, i mean it would be sick if i would just let somebody save my ass every time i'm in trouble right? is there something wrong with me?

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          Roger Wright
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          Don't sweat it. If the SDK and documentation are so bad that a beginner can't figure it out, it was created by an idiot. It's the creator's fault, not yours. Instead of feeling badly, take notes. When it comes time for you to create something that might one day be maintained or used by someone just like you, remember this experience, and make damned sure you do a better job of it than your predecessors.

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            Don't sweat it. If the SDK and documentation are so bad that a beginner can't figure it out, it was created by an idiot. It's the creator's fault, not yours. Instead of feeling badly, take notes. When it comes time for you to create something that might one day be maintained or used by someone just like you, remember this experience, and make damned sure you do a better job of it than your predecessors.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            Paul Conrad
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            :thumbsup: Good point there Roger!

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            • M Michael Sernal

              boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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              Paul Conrad
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              Don't worry about it. Sounds like you are a young developer. It can take time to gain expertise and the way to get there is to keep learning everyday, whether it is by learning from your mistakes or educating yourself with new ideas and concepts. Keep your chin up and keep pressing forward :)

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • A Albert Holguin

                You live and you learn... you can't let one stumble bring you down for good. ;)

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                realJSOP
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                I was gonna tell him to stop being a whiney little bitch (same message, just a little less artfully delivered).

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                • M Michael Sernal

                  boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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                  Pualee
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                  A lot of it is perception. If you come in late, leave early, take long lunches, and/or browse the net a lot, people are less willing to help and be forgiving if your having difficulty. On the other hand, if you are not doing those things, but instead are grinding away on the PC, asking more senior folks good questions, taking lots of notes, reading the SDK, and trying your best... people will assume the problem is too hard and be more willing to help out.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    I was gonna tell him to stop being a whiney little bitch (same message, just a little less artfully delivered).

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    Albert Holguin
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                    :laugh:

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                    • M Michael Sernal

                      boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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                      Tom Delany
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                      poor_soul_me()As Boolean wrote:

                      I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

                      I don't think punctuation or capitalization does either! :-D

                      WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                      • M Michael Sernal

                        boss was angry, and mentioned that i worked for 4 days and haven't accomplished anything, me and my teammate are having problems with the sdk of the dll they provided. He said that if we encounter problems we should confront him, so a moment later i encountered a problem and my teammate can't attend to the problem either i decided to address the matter to the boss and said that i should collaborate with my teammate, but i already did. After a while he was able to solve the problem in his computer and i just coudn't help myself that i wasn't able to anything on my own. Pathetic! I think programming doesn't fit me or something.

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                        Michael Sernal
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                        Thanks guys, Actually there's just the two us in the team, my teammate/partner already has a job experience and his sharp in programming. On the other hand this is my first job and i will say that i'm still new to dll's and stuff and there are times i would like to ask him some things about it but he has this attitude when on coding/programming mode, in fact there is a time when i asked him and he started answering the questions sarcastically with a matching "i don't make friends with colleagues", i was shocked, since then i started to work on my own, there are tasks that i can manage and there are also times i just can't seem to get it so what would do is that to try and try whatever is in power to accomplish something. Boss said before that we would make a good team, my partner has great programming skills and i that i have great logical mind, i don't know about my partner or maybe he doesn't need me at all.

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