Worse then fixing someone else's code
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Ah, the wonderful world of DIY plumbing. :thumbsup:
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
That's why there are professional plumbers, and why you should hire them for plumbing jobs. :rolleyes:
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Think of it this way: at least it was only the sink, not the loo...:~
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Think of it this way: at least it was only the sink, not the loo...:~
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
at least it was only the sink, not the loo
Maybe the loo contains residuals of poo, However the screw is much easier to undo! Cheers! :laugh:
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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Think of it this way: at least it was only the sink, not the loo...:~
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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OriginalGriff wrote:
at least it was only the sink, not the loo
Maybe the loo contains residuals of poo, However the screw is much easier to undo! Cheers! :laugh:
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
Yeah. But there is a reason why they stay full of water - it keeps the smells on the waste side... Not a job I enjoy doing. You do realise that there are special plumbers spanners for working inside sinks and baths? Think they are called basin wrenches[^]
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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That's why there are professional plumbers, and why you should hire them for plumbing jobs. :rolleyes:
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The professional plumbers are obscenely costly, US$70 just to come and take a look. More if you actually want them to do anything . . . and it was a 'professional' plumber that put in the crappy sink-trap and water cutoff valves to begin with. Work I've done myself (e.g., other bathroom) uses parts of a quality that does not result in giving me more work. Note that the trap would have broken, anyway, as it was essentially rotted through due to its poor quality. This would have added substantially to the cost. I'll replace it for a few dollars with one made built to last (and WITH a drain plug).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Yeah. But there is a reason why they stay full of water - it keeps the smells on the waste side... Not a job I enjoy doing. You do realise that there are special plumbers spanners for working inside sinks and baths? Think they are called basin wrenches[^]
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
it keeps the smells on the waste side
True enough! Pepé Le Pew[^] smells of roses in comparison. :) That's why I prefer the wall mounted drainage pipes over the floor mounted ones. With the wall mounted ones the pipe protrudes from the wall and so it's easy to put a lid on it to keep the fumes from poisining the air. *choke* *cough* With the floor mounted ones it is way to easy to drop something into it, which will be over proportionately hard ( costa-lotta) to retrieve. :doh: How do they say? Holy crappola, shit happens! Cheers!
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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Revenge: Create free websites for all the local plumbers. Tell 'em they are DIY maintenance and then walk away.
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
it seems that every time i take the lid off the toilet tank, i've just guaranteed myself at least three trips to the hardware store and three days of agony. next house: outhouses only; not toilets.
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So Mrs. Wife finally badgers me to replace the drain in the sink so I can connect it to the new faucet. This, alas requires plumbing.
- Pedestal sink so tight nothing will fit inside to allow anything to be loosened, so
- I try to remove the pedestal - which breaks the paper-thin-piece-of-crap trap put in by 'the real plumber', so
- I decide easiest move is to remove entire assembly, allowing removal of trap and work on the drain.
Only to find out the shut-off valves don't quite shut off the water (bucket time) - thanks again 'real plumber', so* Now, with the entire sink laid out upon the floor I remove the shards of chrome-plated trap (miraculously without slicking my fingers), only to find out - The screw/flange combo is essentially fused to the drain pipe and, with a grasping surface of ca. 2mm, nothing will grip it (at least nothing that fits in the pedestal), so,
- I saw off the drain pipe and try to access with more brutal gripping tools - but the drain is to happily rusted into place, so
- I saw through more pipe, this time along its axis, until I saw through the flange and can peel it off.
The drain is out! The floor is covered with wet towels, bits of broke hack-saw blade, faucets hanging by their flexi-house, the sink, general blackish gray slime oozing from everything, and my knees hurt. Bathroom is now unusable. McGavin Lowland seemed to help. I just can't wait until tonight - I've still a really neat reassembly to ponder and new foul expressions to express. I'm also contemplating exactly how grumpy I'm entitled to be this morning. What's worse than fixing someone else's code? Repairing someone else's idea of plumbing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Thanks it was the sink... it could have been obfuscated waters to be debugged... :~
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Yeah. But there is a reason why they stay full of water - it keeps the smells on the waste side... Not a job I enjoy doing. You do realise that there are special plumbers spanners for working inside sinks and baths? Think they are called basin wrenches[^]
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
Yeah - but they need a handle and it's all too close to the wall and they need space to get around the pipe (inside the pedestal)(off center on wrong side and too narrow, anyway). It turns out that, even had I a magic wrench to fit, it wouldn't have done any good on the rotted "nut flange" holding the drain onto the sink. I always expect plumbing jobs to go badly.
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The loo is much simpler to fix.
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Yea, just close the door and use the other bathroom ;)
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