Do you think math people are the best programmers?
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
In my experience, the far best programmers are people who studied electrical engineering, but took jobs as programmers. I think it has something to do with understanding logic and the inability to quickly "patch" their work... must be right when it is deployed. Some of the worst are CS majors.
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
It depends on what you are programming. You need not know math well for making top layer with current frameworks. In fact it may cause issues knowing math well, because the programmer will try and do what the framework is doing for them. Of course for performance it is somewhat critical.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
MATHS surely? The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
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In my experience, the far best programmers are people who studied electrical engineering, but took jobs as programmers. I think it has something to do with understanding logic and the inability to quickly "patch" their work... must be right when it is deployed. Some of the worst are CS majors.
I would agree but in some cases you can even be more generic in that Engineers are good programmers. There is one catch though. I have noticed that Engineers don't always look to new technology where the CS folks try to stay more up to date. With that some of the engineers are using old patterns and out dated technology, and by choice simply because they know how to do it that way.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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MATHS surely? The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
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In my experience, the far best programmers are people who studied electrical engineering, but took jobs as programmers. I think it has something to do with understanding logic and the inability to quickly "patch" their work... must be right when it is deployed. Some of the worst are CS majors.
Most of the best programmers I know studied Geography or Geology at college, including myself - although I'm not counting myself as the best. And most of them want to be chefs.
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
I see no correlation. People with different backgrounds approach problems differently, and that's fine. As long as logic is used, does it matter what the foundation of the logic is? I know math majors that don't code, and I don't think could never learn it. I also know people that have studied everything under the sun that are great programmers.
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Don't you have a queen to be worshiping today? I do say maths, and get weird looks in this country.
Queen worship is tomorrow. Today is last Monday's (whatever it was for) that got moved to today. As we all have tomorrow off extra drinking can be done today.
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MATHS surely? The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Don't you have a queen to be worshiping today? I do say maths, and get weird looks in this country.
Just waiting for the concert. I had a bad game of golf and need something to kick! :)
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
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I see no correlation. People with different backgrounds approach problems differently, and that's fine. As long as logic is used, does it matter what the foundation of the logic is? I know math majors that don't code, and I don't think could never learn it. I also know people that have studied everything under the sun that are great programmers.
Well, maybe i disagree when you mention that some people who know math can't code... i think in general cases that people who know math can code better than people who studio computer systems engineering (maybe because they know better the abstraction of the things).
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In my experience, the far best programmers are people who studied electrical engineering, but took jobs as programmers. I think it has something to do with understanding logic and the inability to quickly "patch" their work... must be right when it is deployed. Some of the worst are CS majors.
Yeah i think so...but if you analyze the people who study electrical engineering are like maths people, in fact, electrical circuits are math representations and i think this type of problem improve the logic substantially.
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I see no correlation. People with different backgrounds approach problems differently, and that's fine. As long as logic is used, does it matter what the foundation of the logic is? I know math majors that don't code, and I don't think could never learn it. I also know people that have studied everything under the sun that are great programmers.
I agree, it would just focus their strengths, I would think. So if they're electrical engineers, maybe they focus more on the architectural aspects or on tinkering just until it works. Or maybe they like tests because they are used to working with things that are hard to fix once they're out in the wild. Maybe if they studied math, they focus more on the low-level optimizations or maybe they like to model systems before building them. And if they are CS majors, maybe they keep in mind big-O notation and avoid perfecting code when it does not change the big-O performance. That, of course, doesn't preclude each from performing tasks similar to the others, but it may on average reveal a trend of how each tends to work.
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MATHS surely? The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
It's also considered a singular noun, which is why folks say, “mathematics is my best subject” and not “mathematics are my best subject.” What about economics? Did you take an econ or econs class in college? It all depends on where you are from.
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In my experience, the far best programmers are people who studied electrical engineering, but took jobs as programmers. I think it has something to do with understanding logic and the inability to quickly "patch" their work... must be right when it is deployed. Some of the worst are CS majors.
Having a BSEE degree myself, I can explain why EEs tend to be better at it than others. A lot of us, especially software/firmware types, have to twiddle bits in assembly and get down to the true bare metal. We cut our teeth on that. So, when we move up to the other areas of programming like desktop and web apps, it is so much easier. I have also found that when you have to program without a nice IDE and lots of debugging tools like exist in and around Visual Studio, you tend to be a LOT more careful with what you are doing and typing.
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
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MATHS surely? The subject is MathematicS, a plural.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I think it's a shame that you Brits have to break up mathematics into pieces. My experience is that it's all tied together in one broad subject area. So, do they give you several diplomas when you get a degree in mathematicS or just 1 diploma?
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Hi, i have a theory...that is that people with math studies are the best in the programming field (if you don't trust me, check Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustup, Alan Kay, etc)...what is your opinions about this? Is convenient study math books instead of programming books?
I went to Uni to study Maths and CS. At the end of the first year I realized that I was a lot, lot cr@ppier at maths than I had thought (and my exam results had previously suggested). I dropped the maths, and went to pure CS. I don't think I'm a bad programmer - I think I'm pretty good. I do know that I have never used more than one tenth of the mathematics I learnt in order to get on the Maths and CS course in the first place...
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