Ubuntu and Windows

[Albert Holguin]

Considering this has only happened within the last couple of years... it may change very soon. Depending on who's in charge at MS.

[lewax00]

At the very least I doubt MS would intentionally hinder VMs, because they have nothing to gain from doing so (and in fact would probably hurt them). Then again, parts of Windows 8 seems like terrible ideas, so maybe I'm assuming they're more rational than they actually are :doh:

[Albert Holguin]

lewax00 wrote:

At the very least I doubt MS would intentionally hinder VMs, because they have nothing to gain from doing so (and in fact would probably hurt them).

Agree...

lewax00 wrote:

maybe I'm assuming they're more rational than they actually are

:laugh:

[loctrice]

I second that. This is what I used to do with Ubuntu, and now it's what I do with gentoo.

If it moves, compile it

[Mustafa Ismail Mustafa]

I've been like that for near 3 years now, with Windows running from a VM. I personally rarely use windows these days. Microsoft lost me with Vista (what a dysmal failure that was). Windows 7 was quite good to be honest but by then I had moved on to better things (IMO :) ). I find this to be the perfect environment, but you do need something with a little oomph to it. I had to get an SSD drive and that really made a difference for my laptop. I'm going to be upgrading my laptop as soon as I'm properly settled in and see about getting an i5 with about 8GB of RAM.

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[Mustafa Ismail Mustafa]

lewax00 wrote:

Then again, parts of Windows 8 seems like terrible ideas, so maybe I'm assuming they're more rational than they actually are :doh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Classic!

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[jschell]

Gary Wheeler wrote:

There always seems to be behavior differences between native boots and virtual machines that cause grief when testing.

With recent (version) VMs? If so could you provide an example of such a problem?

[CPallini]

I have Windows as boot OS and Ubuntu on a VM. Never had a problem so far.

Veni, vidi, vici.

[Collin Biedenkapp]

Hmm. I have heard all different opinions here, and I have several machines available that I could use. That seems like it may be the best option. Also, by safer all I meant was that viruses are less of a concern due to Windows being the target of most. I will probably stick with Windows 7 on my desktop for normal operations and Ubuntu on my laptop or a VM. The server environment I'm developing is entirely self contained, and I have several remote cloud servers I can test it on, so the scariness of a VM for me isn't as big of a factor. At the same time, I just plane like Ubuntu. There isn't a perfect solution I don't think. The bottom line is this for me: Ubuntu, although it should be (IMO), isn't as popular or mainstream as Windows, and is doesn't run everything Windows can. I find myself rebooting several times in a day due to different things (I have two projects currently, one using .Net/C++ and one for Linux).

Collin Biedenkapp

[Scott Serl]

I gave up Windows about 4 years ago at home, but at work I have one Windows box and one Ubuntu box. I share the keyboard and mouse with a kvm switch and each box has a dedicated monitor. I use synergy to allow the mouse and keyboard to be used across both monitors (and copy and paste between the 2 systems). This has been an ideal setup, although you need to make the Windows computer the synergy "server" and the Ubuntu box the client (due to uac). In order to communicate securely over the network between your 2 systems, install cygwin on Windows and use the ssh server, and run autossh on Ubuntu to create an encrypted tunnel between the two. On Windows, set up synergy server. On Ubuntu box run: autossh -fNL localhost:24800::24800 then: synergyc -f localhost It should connect to the windows synergs server right away, so switch the kvm to the Windows computer and your mouse and keyboard should work across both screens. Scott P.S. I used to run Windows in VirtualBox under ubuntu, but you need to give it at least 4GB RAM to be able to reliably run Visual Studio 10.

[Brisingr Aerowing]

Rational Microsoft? ...CRASH

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public class SysAdmin : Employee
{

 public override void DoWork(IWorkItem workItem)
 {
      if (workItem.User.Type == UserType.NoLearn){
         throw new NoIWillNotFixYourComputerException(new Luser(workItem.User));
      }else{
           base.DoWork(workItem);
      }
 }

}

[Richard Andrew x64]

I went to the Hiren BootCD website, but there is no download link for the CD. Do you know where to get it from?

The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

[Brisingr Aerowing]

Download Hirens Boot CD[^] Here is the download site.

public class SysAdmin : Employee
{

 public override void DoWork(IWorkItem workItem)
 {
      if (workItem.User.Type == UserType.NoLearn){
         throw new NoIWillNotFixYourComputerException(new Luser(workItem.User));
      }else{
           base.DoWork(workItem);
      }
 }

}

[kevinpelgrims]

Or you could do it using the Windows 98 floppy disk. That used to work :cool:

[HiteshSharma]

Did you try Wubi from ubuntu? It's a windows installer for Ubuntu. Installing it actually installs ubuntu on your system on a seperate partition (yes you can definitely use that partition from windows as well) and it installs as an application only ( you won't find the difference whether you're installing an application or an OS). At boot time you'll find two operating systems, Windows and Ubuntu, to choose from. If in future you feel like removing Ubuntu just open your Windows and uninstall Wubi, it will remove each and every trace of Ubuntu from your system. I have been using it since a long time and have never faced any issue. Find the installer here[^]

[Gary Wheeler]

We haven't tested this recently. Our application does process control in an industrial environment. We've seen differences in multithreading behavior and timing under the VM.

Software Zen: delete this;

[Lost User]

So, what's with the dual boot/VM stuff? I also do corporate contract dev with Win7 and Ubuntu and actually need to test for backward compatability with WIN XP!!! The only thing that works for me is THREE workstations. Laptops are cheap, older (slower) ones really tell you where you loops are quickly. Just share the code on the same backup file server. Of course, primary dev desktop is dual monitor, quad processor, gobs of RAM and HD - replace wireless keyboard about every 6 months, cuz I pound the keys hard!!! Why do you think pianists surround themselves with 3-4 or even 5 keyboards?

[User 8140353]

Why don't you dual boot using wubi instead of giving ubuntu partion(s) of its own? You wanna get rid of it? Go to your application list in the Windows Control Panel and uninstall it just like you wuold do with any other Windows application. It takes 15mins to install ubuntu and 5secs to uninstall it. AFAIK only drawbacks for ubuntu are: no hibernation available, slower disk access (ubuntu FS is actually a windows file). Apart from these, you wouldn't tell it apart from a native clean installation.

[Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji]

how is gentoo by the way?

Regards, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji http://jwalantsoneji.com[^]

[Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji]

I am not sure what could have annoyed you having Ubuntu and Win 8 side by side... I have Win 8, Win 7 and Ubuntu. The bootloader is a pain as Win 8 has combined both wins in it.

Regards, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji http://jwalantsoneji.com[^]