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artificial inteligence is a myth!!!

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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    I'm beginning to think that human intelligence is a myth!

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    RJOberg
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    Beginning? I'm already quite certain it's a myth!

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      Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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      wizardzz
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      Vasily Tserekh wrote:

      has inhaled a pound of cocaine

      That might just be what it takes to create AI.

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        Have you ever studied AI? Just curious. In all likely hood you are just a troll and will now get voted down to oblivion. Have fun.

        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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        Vasily Tserekh
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        Yes i did and that makes me think that, I am not a troll, thats my particular point of view after watch the current state of the art of the AI

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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          Lost User
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          And so many example to be found here.

          speaking as ...

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            Have you ever studied AI? Just curious. In all likely hood you are just a troll and will now get voted down to oblivion. Have fun.

            Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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            lewax00
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            Collin Jasnoch wrote:

            In all likely hood you are just a troll

            Based on the majority of his posts, I'd say this is a certainty.

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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              Yes i did and that makes me think that, I am not a troll, thats my particular point of view after watch the current state of the art of the AI

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              lewax00
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              Vasily Tserekh wrote:

              thats my particular point of view after watch the current state of the art of the AI

              Because as we all know, fields never improve and never become more advanced. We still use the exact same technology we used at the dawn of time, and nothing thought to be previously impossible has ever been achieved.

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                Lost User
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                Hmmm, you kept on ranting against C++ because you never understood it. Now you are ranting against AI and I am beginning to see a pattern here. You really are a troll and I think my signature was made just for you :)

                At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                • V Vasily Tserekh

                  Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                  Slacker007
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                  Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                  is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

                  It would crazy to think that someone could inhale a pound of cocaine and not perform if switchs elses for loops. Just saying...

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                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                    Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                    My father recently mentioned how, as a kid, they marveled at the impossibility of the comic strip detective Dick Tracy's two-way wrist radio. Take a lesson from history and never say never.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • V Vasily Tserekh

                      Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                      Lost User
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                      Is this post a test of some sort? Was it generated by AI?

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                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                        Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                        Lost User
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                        I think you are right. Programming is about procedures to solve problems, effectively. One can only program as many solutions as the programmer can think of. But true intelligence is the ability to solve NEW problems. Therefore traditional programming canot achieve that.

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                          Is this post a test of some sort? Was it generated by AI?

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                          No. A severe case of NaSt.

                          At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                          • V Vasily Tserekh

                            Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            That's why it's called artificial. I think we can simulate intelligence. Computers can make logical conclusions based on how they're programmed but to make independent reasoning and become truly intelligent and self-aware is questionable. We don't even know what that really means anyway.

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                            • V Vasily Tserekh

                              Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              Factually you may be correct in your assertions; however, I have no doubt that, at some point in the future, we will have some form of AI. What that form will take or how it will be achieved I have no idea but you are probably correct that it won't involve VB. :)

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                I think you are right. Programming is about procedures to solve problems, effectively. One can only program as many solutions as the programmer can think of. But true intelligence is the ability to solve NEW problems. Therefore traditional programming canot achieve that.

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                                AspDotNetDev
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                                Erudite_Eric wrote:

                                Therefore

                                Ergo, ipso facto oreo columbo.

                                Erudite_Eric wrote:

                                One can only program as many solutions as the programmer can think of.

                                We need only design something as complicated as ourselves. If JavaScript can do it, there may be a chance we can do it. :)

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                                  Hmmm, you kept on ranting against C++ because you never understood it. Now you are ranting against AI and I am beginning to see a pattern here. You really are a troll and I think my signature was made just for you :)

                                  At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                  Vasily Tserekh
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                                  men thats offensive, thats my opinion if you disagree you can make your points not make offensive jokes, also my parents are russians and you REALLY know they are not stupids

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                                    Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                                    GuyThiebaut
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                                    This is a huge topic as you really need to define what you mean by human intelligence first. If you mean conciousness then yes there is an issue - philosophers for thousands of years have been trying to figure out what conciousness is, we still seem to be none the wiser. If by intelligence you mean the ability to make decisions quickly, accurately and learn from mistakes then I would say that AI is pretty darn good! A couple of examples (one from my own experience): - I have used SAPI for voice recognition in speech recognition software[^] I have written and the accuracy is fairly amazing. SAPI will learn from mistakes and the more it is used the better it becomes at word recognition. - I also believe that the google driverless car[^] is going to be quite something. So all in all I think AI really is doing very well - if you leave out the 'conciousness' part which has puzzled even some of the most insightful Buddhist monks who have spent years in caves studying their own minds through meditation... I am guessing though that you have something specific in mind.

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                                    • V Vasily Tserekh

                                      Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine

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                                      loctrice
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                                      I bet you got caught by the pacman ghosts a lot. Is this post a revenge posting?

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                                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                                        Yes i did and that makes me think that, I am not a troll, thats my particular point of view after watch the current state of the art of the AI

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                                        Lost User
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                                        The definition of intelligence is 1.The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Honestly from that meaning alone, I would say many systems, ones that were not even meant to be A.I., are in fact more intelligent than the average human. I am not joking here. Think about it. Think about what social networks currently do. They aquire knowledge about you and your network an aply skills of successful matching of advertising campaigns and further networking. There is not a human being on this planet that can do that more efficiently. I also have studied A.I. and there is plenty of it already out there. Maybe it does not meat your standards of being intellegent. But then again, maybe you just aren't very intelligent. So your standards are irrelevent.

                                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                          Factually you may be correct in your assertions; however, I have no doubt that, at some point in the future, we will have some form of AI. What that form will take or how it will be achieved I have no idea but you are probably correct that it won't involve VB. :)

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                          Vasily Tserekh
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                                          haah you are right as long as VB its out of the ecuation

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