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experiencing another culture, especially one as foreign as Korean, had a profound affect on me,, one that i have experienced in smaller degreres when visiting other countries I know it isn't the same thing, but one of the best classes I ever too was Asian history. Far too many of the U.S. history courses are Europe centric. Never did find a course on African history. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: Never did find a course on African history Neither have I and I live in Africa. There is not much written, documented history here. All oral and visual and that does not count in our western books. The only history you will get of Africa is that from the Eurocentric view point ("Day 300, rounded tip of Africa. Got some water, shot some bushmen, lion mauled the ships mate.") and Arabcentric viewpoint ("Day of fasting. Swapped worthless glass beads for tons of gold and 100 slaves, natives got restless so we slaughtered a few, went back home.") Africans never invented a written language, or adapted an existing one. So much has been lost and disfigured by oral tradition.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Chris Austin wrote: Machu Pichu via the Inca Trail Any photo's? :-D
A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch
Too many. 14 rolls :) If you like I can set them up on a photo sharing site. I've scanned most of them in and it gives me good reason to finish the job. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Yeah, I want to see the world. I got to go to London last spring and it was a real eye opener. Made me want to see a lot more of the world. Here is my list so far: Spain, Italy, Greece, Australia, France, Canada, Hawaii, New Zealand, Germany, Daytona, Sturgis, Mount Rushmore, Niagara Falls, Aztec ruins. There was an article about South Africa in my local Sunday paper and between that and the talk here on CP I'll be adding it to my list. Some will be easier than others but I'm going to try to get to them all. Paul Watson wrote: Are you happy in Hickville It's not that bad. My family is here and it's cheap. I'm only a couple hours away from Dallas/Fort Worth so I can get a taste of the big city when I want to. The only thing I really don't like about the big cities is the traffic. X|
Greg Carter wrote: I'm only a couple hours away from Dallas/Fort Worth so I can get a taste of the big city when I want to. Funny. I'm in DFW and to me it is Hickville. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Ted Ferenc said "The world is fascinating, BUT only if you have seen some of it." Now for me that is not true. Ever since I could first understand that here was not all I have wanted to visit all. See the pyramids, go down the Mississippi, float over the GBR, climb Kilimanjaro, visit the Great Wall, trek through Africa (the bits one can), visit New York, New York. Cross Russia by train (that is if it is still going.) Gaze at Machu Pichu, get bitten by various snakese in the Amazon. Meet a real American, in America. Frankly having visited London, once a big dream, the interest has waned. Nice to see the Queen, the buildings and the duck pond, but you know, it is really just a big, dark, crowded city. Probably have the same thing happen to me in New York one day. So is that true of you? Have you no interest in visiting other places? Are you happy in Hickville and maybe at a stretch visiting Aunt Edna 200 k's away in Hickton? My sister is perfectly happy being here and not all. So I realise there are people like that and that while at first I thought they were... well... sad, I now realise they aren't, they are just different and thats that. But still... Imagine visiting the Galopogas Islands? How can you resist??!?!?!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Greg Carter wrote: Some will be easier than others but I'm going to try to get to them all. It's actually really cool that it will take a lifetime - each year something new to look forward too :cool:
A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch
I hear you. The only thing that I don't like is that, at this point in my life, I'm limited to a week or so at each place. Not long enough to really get into it.
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while i was in the (US) army moer than 12 years ago ( :omg: how time flies ), i lived in South Korea for 2 years experiencing another culture, especially one as foreign as Korean, had a profound affect on me,, one that i have experienced in smaller degreres when visiting other countries it's fun to visit places, see the sights and whatnot, but the whirlwind stop in a country cannot give you the flavor of a people. recently, my wife and i took a cruise around the carribean and had a day in cozumel, mexico. it was a fun experience, but i had a more authentic "mexican" experience many years earlier when some friends and i had a car breakdown in front of a mexican prison than i did when perusing the tourist shops of cozumel. i would love to live in ireland or the uk for a year or two. -John
John, I spent 6 months in S.K. as a contractor for Samsung. I loved the people there, they were incredibly kind to me. Some of the best memories I'll ever have are of people inviting me to their home for dinner and family events. And, do I ever miss the food...my kingdom for bullgogi! Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Paul Watson wrote: So is that true of you? Have you no interest in visiting other places? Are you happy in Hickville and maybe at a stretch visiting Aunt Edna 200 k's away in Hickton? My wife and I both love to travel. In fact last summer we trekked to Machu Pichu via the Inca Trail. This year we are going to the Nicaragua and the Yucatan to visit the Mayaian ruins. Paul Watson wrote: Imagine visiting the Galopogas Islands? Did that too. It was pretty damn cool. If you want any advice on the matter I'd say just start planning your next trip. It is a great distraction from the daily grind and gives you something to look foward to. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Chris Austin wrote: In fact last summer we trekked to Machu Pichu via the Inca Trail My boss and his dad did that a few years ago, they said it was incredible but the dad said it was very tiring, especially all those steps near the end. All his tails have made me want to do the trip for sure. As for those photos... count me in with Meg on wanting to see them :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Ted Ferenc said "The world is fascinating, BUT only if you have seen some of it." Now for me that is not true. Ever since I could first understand that here was not all I have wanted to visit all. See the pyramids, go down the Mississippi, float over the GBR, climb Kilimanjaro, visit the Great Wall, trek through Africa (the bits one can), visit New York, New York. Cross Russia by train (that is if it is still going.) Gaze at Machu Pichu, get bitten by various snakese in the Amazon. Meet a real American, in America. Frankly having visited London, once a big dream, the interest has waned. Nice to see the Queen, the buildings and the duck pond, but you know, it is really just a big, dark, crowded city. Probably have the same thing happen to me in New York one day. So is that true of you? Have you no interest in visiting other places? Are you happy in Hickville and maybe at a stretch visiting Aunt Edna 200 k's away in Hickton? My sister is perfectly happy being here and not all. So I realise there are people like that and that while at first I thought they were... well... sad, I now realise they aren't, they are just different and thats that. But still... Imagine visiting the Galopogas Islands? How can you resist??!?!?!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
I'm infected, too. I don't care to "see all", but after two years I get restless, I need to pack some T-shirts and a Lonely Planet (or similar), and set out. For me it's "mental health" thing - getting a grip on reality again, releasing some pressure that build up (no not this kind shame on you ;) I tend to write a very emotional/weird/personal diary the first one or two weeks, my writing doesn't keep up with my thinking, then the desire "fades".) But then, an important part is stumbling over a foreign culture. Finding my own orientation. Low budget is perfect for that. The more you take with you, the less you get away from home. I don't think the hours spent in latin american buses did teach me a lot. Except perhaps: people are different. (How surprising!) Some things are universal, some things are not. Not just at the you&me level, but also as a social group. Having very different lives, they are happy and sad the same. (last mexico vac. was especially insightful on that)
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Paul Watson wrote: Ted Ferenc said "The world is fascinating, BUT only if you have seen some of it." I must say, my eyes nearly popped out my head when I saw that earlier, but then I read something similar the other day - if you live in the US, you have everything. Still, I can't understand it - the joy of being different! I want to go everywhere, and I mean everywhere! My biggest problem right now is juggling annual leave to see places. This year we will probably get to Malta, Lapland (north of the artic circle - can't wait!!), Prague, and SA - again. Big problem - we love SA and family are there, but right now it's eating up waaaaaay to much of our leave! With any luck I will convince my husband that the first week of this December should rather be spent in Tanzania on our way home, but it seems unlikely. I must say, once I've trekked the Inca trails, been to a hawaaian volcano, gone kayaking with whales off Alaska, hiked around Alaska, and done the Trans-Siberian railway (yes, it's still going, and you can see both Russia and the Great Wall in the same fantastic trip :-D ) I will be somewhat more satisfied... Not at all demanding are we? ;P
A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch
Megan Forbes wrote: gone kayaking with whales off Alaska Ooohh, sign me up. Megan Forbes wrote: Lapland (north of the artic circle I am so fascinated by the poles. There is that ship that leaves from Cape Town each year to Antarctica on which normal people can book passage, definitley going on that some day. Megan Forbes wrote: yes, it's still going, and you can see both Russia and the Great Wall in the same fantastic trip Good point. And trains are just awesome don't you think? We used to take the train from Durban to Harare or Vic falls back when I was small. Loved the train, always in the top bunk :-D When you go, give me a call a month before and we can drink some real Russian vodka together :-D Megan Forbes wrote: Not at all demanding are we? Rather run the risk of being too demanding than not demand at all. (that sentence you can insert virtually any word into to say what you want... lol)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Greg Carter wrote: I'm only a couple hours away from Dallas/Fort Worth so I can get a taste of the big city when I want to. Funny. I'm in DFW and to me it is Hickville. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Compared to Wichita Falls, it's a big city.:) So what do you consider the "big city"?
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Ted Ferenc said "The world is fascinating, BUT only if you have seen some of it." Now for me that is not true. Ever since I could first understand that here was not all I have wanted to visit all. See the pyramids, go down the Mississippi, float over the GBR, climb Kilimanjaro, visit the Great Wall, trek through Africa (the bits one can), visit New York, New York. Cross Russia by train (that is if it is still going.) Gaze at Machu Pichu, get bitten by various snakese in the Amazon. Meet a real American, in America. Frankly having visited London, once a big dream, the interest has waned. Nice to see the Queen, the buildings and the duck pond, but you know, it is really just a big, dark, crowded city. Probably have the same thing happen to me in New York one day. So is that true of you? Have you no interest in visiting other places? Are you happy in Hickville and maybe at a stretch visiting Aunt Edna 200 k's away in Hickton? My sister is perfectly happy being here and not all. So I realise there are people like that and that while at first I thought they were... well... sad, I now realise they aren't, they are just different and thats that. But still... Imagine visiting the Galopogas Islands? How can you resist??!?!?!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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I've been to 30+ of the 50 United States, Canada, Mexico, England, Ireland, Germany and Spain... ...and in the end, there's no place like home.* :-D * However, I still want to see Australia, Africa & Russia. For some reason Asia just doesn't appeal to me. Mike Mullikin :beer:
Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps. - Emo Philips
Mike Mullikin wrote: ...and in the end, there's no place like home.* Absolutely. Though the shores of Kariba in Zimbabwe come very close to beating Cape Town for me. You have not had a real beer until you have been fishing on Kariba. :-D Mike Mullikin wrote: For some reason Asia just doesn't appeal to me. I wonder why that is. I love the sound of Thailand and India. If it is not a daft thing to do I want to hike through most of those areas. Also the Himalayas and Tibet, visit the prayer wheels, breath the rarified air. :-D p.s. Russia is in Asia... right? ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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lauren wrote: i dont need to answer this do i? No, no you don't babe. You live what others can only dream :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Here is my list so far: USA (30+ states incl Alaska), Canada (1 Province), Germany, England, Singapore, Hong Kong In future: Switzerland, France, Australia, Hawaii, Bahamas, Brazil, Japan Kant Sonork-100.28114 Don't :beer: and Drive.
Kant wrote: USA (30+ states incl Alaska), Canada (1 Province), Germany, England, Singapore, Hong Kong Good going Kant. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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I hear you. The only thing that I don't like is that, at this point in my life, I'm limited to a week or so at each place. Not long enough to really get into it.
Yeah, me too - only 20 days leave out of each 365 :(
A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch
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Megan Forbes wrote: gone kayaking with whales off Alaska Ooohh, sign me up. Megan Forbes wrote: Lapland (north of the artic circle I am so fascinated by the poles. There is that ship that leaves from Cape Town each year to Antarctica on which normal people can book passage, definitley going on that some day. Megan Forbes wrote: yes, it's still going, and you can see both Russia and the Great Wall in the same fantastic trip Good point. And trains are just awesome don't you think? We used to take the train from Durban to Harare or Vic falls back when I was small. Loved the train, always in the top bunk :-D When you go, give me a call a month before and we can drink some real Russian vodka together :-D Megan Forbes wrote: Not at all demanding are we? Rather run the risk of being too demanding than not demand at all. (that sentence you can insert virtually any word into to say what you want... lol)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: When you go, give me a call a month before and we can drink some real Russian vodka together Won't be till next year (this year's leave is all planned up already :( ) - why don't you save up and come along? :cool:
A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch
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lauren wrote: i dont need to answer this do i? No, no you don't babe. You live what others can only dream :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Compared to Wichita Falls, it's a big city.:) So what do you consider the "big city"?
It is not so much the size but the local people and the lack of non-shoping activities. I'd take a city with a more dynamic enviroment any day. Personaly I'd love to move back to San Diego....Having lived there, Phoenix and Dallas; it is easy to understand why San Diego is considered by many to be America's finest city. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Chris Austin wrote: In fact last summer we trekked to Machu Pichu via the Inca Trail My boss and his dad did that a few years ago, they said it was incredible but the dad said it was very tiring, especially all those steps near the end. All his tails have made me want to do the trip for sure. As for those photos... count me in with Meg on wanting to see them :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: My boss and his dad did that a few years ago, they said it was incredible but the dad said it was very tiring, especially all those steps near the end. Oh, it can be a killer. My wife read a lot about the trip a year before we left. So she had me running with her or climbing the steps at a local sports stadium every night for 6 months prior. I was very thankfulll in the end. Paul Watson wrote: As for those photos... count me in with Meg on wanting to see them I'll get on it tonight. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Kant wrote: USA (30+ states incl Alaska), Canada (1 Province), Germany, England, Singapore, Hong Kong Good going Kant. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!