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Ethics in programming?

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    RobCroll
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    Has anything changed since Bill Gates left Apple? Sharks swim in these waters, nothing new there, every industry has sharks. Ethics is not on the radar in the programming industry and we deserve to be treated with contempt. It affects our wages and our standing in society and yet we let our masters take advantage of our weak standing as an industry group. IEEE and other groups appear to be self patronising clubs and nothing else. I'm thinking it's about time we as programmers can take an ethical stance, and not lose our job. Just like other engineers. Discuss.

    "You get that on the big jobs."

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      Has anything changed since Bill Gates left Apple? Sharks swim in these waters, nothing new there, every industry has sharks. Ethics is not on the radar in the programming industry and we deserve to be treated with contempt. It affects our wages and our standing in society and yet we let our masters take advantage of our weak standing as an industry group. IEEE and other groups appear to be self patronising clubs and nothing else. I'm thinking it's about time we as programmers can take an ethical stance, and not lose our job. Just like other engineers. Discuss.

      "You get that on the big jobs."

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      Dalek Dave
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      Welcome to our universe. It seems very much like the one you left, only here, Bill Gates never worked at Apple.

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        Has anything changed since Bill Gates left Apple? Sharks swim in these waters, nothing new there, every industry has sharks. Ethics is not on the radar in the programming industry and we deserve to be treated with contempt. It affects our wages and our standing in society and yet we let our masters take advantage of our weak standing as an industry group. IEEE and other groups appear to be self patronising clubs and nothing else. I'm thinking it's about time we as programmers can take an ethical stance, and not lose our job. Just like other engineers. Discuss.

        "You get that on the big jobs."

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        Lost User
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        Ethics? Why? So we can increase the height of the already-quite-high moral horses we're riding? Oh wait you mentioned wages. I fail to see how they could be affected negatively. In general there's a pattern of "less ethical means higher wages".

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          Welcome to our universe. It seems very much like the one you left, only here, Bill Gates never worked at Apple.

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Bill Gates never worked at Apple.

          Sure he did. Different one, no relation at all.

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            Ethics? Why? So we can increase the height of the already-quite-high moral horses we're riding? Oh wait you mentioned wages. I fail to see how they could be affected negatively. In general there's a pattern of "less ethical means higher wages".

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            Already-quite-high moral horse!! Sorry I must have missed that ride. I just want to take the high moral ground and make sure they can't replace me :) Also I think less ethical means lower wages not higher wages.

            "You get that on the big jobs."

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              Already-quite-high moral horse!! Sorry I must have missed that ride. I just want to take the high moral ground and make sure they can't replace me :) Also I think less ethical means lower wages not higher wages.

              "You get that on the big jobs."

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              RobCroll wrote:

              Also I think less ethical means lower wages not higher wages.

              Should, but doesn't.

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                Already-quite-high moral horse!! Sorry I must have missed that ride. I just want to take the high moral ground and make sure they can't replace me :) Also I think less ethical means lower wages not higher wages.

                "You get that on the big jobs."

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                RobCroll wrote:

                I just want to take the high moral ground and make sure they can't replace me :)

                If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted!

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                  Has anything changed since Bill Gates left Apple? Sharks swim in these waters, nothing new there, every industry has sharks. Ethics is not on the radar in the programming industry and we deserve to be treated with contempt. It affects our wages and our standing in society and yet we let our masters take advantage of our weak standing as an industry group. IEEE and other groups appear to be self patronising clubs and nothing else. I'm thinking it's about time we as programmers can take an ethical stance, and not lose our job. Just like other engineers. Discuss.

                  "You get that on the big jobs."

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                  RobCroll
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                  I don't know how many read this topic but those who rated the post where 50/50. I guess that's typical, so we as programmers are no more or less ethical than any other industry.

                  "You get that on the big jobs."

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