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    An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

    Will Rogers never met me.

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      An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      In Australia this is definitely true... anything higher than a Bachelor's degree is wasted in general employment circles... Academia is a different story. You do need to have that first degree though... it's just any more than that that are more beneficial for personal development than money...

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        An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        In Singapore you don't need to bother applying without the first degree, never seen a masters on a CV but then again they tend to employ and train. Personally I put experience well above paper.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          In Germany it's different. With a Master degree you get more money, when you have made your Doctor-title you get even more. I was on search for a new job and the degree was always a issue in the talk about money. (In sooth I havn't made my Master but my Diplom, what is the predecessor in Germany.)

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            An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            over here the rule of thumb is: the degree will make it easier for you to get a job interview. once you passed that hurdle, it's all about experience and knowledge. (although if you want to go into the middle/upper management for any established company a bachelor degree is a minimum)

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              In Australia this is definitely true... anything higher than a Bachelor's degree is wasted in general employment circles... Academia is a different story. You do need to have that first degree though... it's just any more than that that are more beneficial for personal development than money...

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              _Damian S_ wrote:

              anything higher than a Bachelor's degree is wasted in general employment circles

              This is a very broad generalisation. In IT it's probably true. IT has seen a very steady decline in prestige particularly in the HR departments of large companies. In Engineering, R&D, and management I think it is not true that extra qualifications don't count.

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                An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Well here in India Master degree doesn't matter much then technical experience. However, Some of the post you applied MUST requires Master degree to be completed reaching at certain level of pay scale at the start.

                Regards, Hiren. -"I don't know, I don't care, and it doesn't make any difference".

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                  An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  I am very happy with the education my diploma brought me, although I have seldom seen it as an income increaser or work bringer. It is very close to a degree.

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                    An article I read tonight places a Masters in Computer Engineering among the Five Graduate Degrees That Don't Pay[^]. According to the article, an advanced degree gives a job candidate little or no advantage over one who has only a Bachelor degree, and the economic payoff is, if any, minimal. It is, however, slightly better than a Master of Fine Arts (aka, Advanced Burger Flipping). I wonder how a Bachelor degree would fare in a similar study, given that the programming and computer engineering trades are so focused on practical experience, rather than technical education? Does it really make a difference, in the long haul, to have that slip of parchment?

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    In all honesty, when I look at resumes, I don't really give more credit to a Grad degrees. It might hurt actually, because I'll wonder why they weren't working during that time. But if they were working and schooling, I'll probably look favorably on it.

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