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Cisco locks customers out of their own routers, only lets them back in if they agree to being spied upon and monetized

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    Chris Maunder
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    BoingBoing[^]:

    Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      BoingBoing[^]:

      Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Chris Losinger
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      i love the Cisco PR lackey who shows up in comments and is then set upon like a chuck roast in a lion's cage.

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        BoingBoing[^]:

        Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        In the future (last month), nobody will sell anything, just lease it, so that they can control you.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          BoingBoing[^]:

          Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          lewax00
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          And Cisco just made my list of "brands to never buy". If a free service wants to try and track me that's one thing (they have to pay their bills too, but that doesn't mean I'll make it easy for them to do it), but I will not have a product I paid for using my information as an additional revenue stream, nor will I give a company the option to shut down my personal equipment.

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            BoingBoing[^]:

            Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            LloydA111
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            Or you could just downgrade the current firmware.

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              Or you could just downgrade the current firmware.

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              Which would be easier if they would at least post the instructions online. Requiring you to call them for instructions is BS.

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                BoingBoing[^]:

                Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Will that make my used router more or less valuable on ebay? :confused:

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  BoingBoing[^]:

                  Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Lost User
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                  What the hell is wrong with people/organizations. That is SO MESSED UP! I can't hardly believe it .. I'm pissed and I don't even own a Cisco product ! UBX ..

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                    BoingBoing[^]:

                    Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Minion no 5
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                    The Register has been informed.

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                      BoingBoing[^]:

                      Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      jkirkerx
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                      I don't think it's cisco that will be disconnecting you. And I'm sure it's automatic data gathering, and who's really residing in that cloud, d-h-s?. Glad I have a vintage linksys 2002 router at home. Thinking about replacing it with a new G37.

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                        BoingBoing[^]:

                        Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Selling my shares.

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                          I don't think it's cisco that will be disconnecting you. And I'm sure it's automatic data gathering, and who's really residing in that cloud, d-h-s?. Glad I have a vintage linksys 2002 router at home. Thinking about replacing it with a new G37.

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          You're replacing a router with a G37? I hope you're getting the convertible[^].

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            BoingBoing[^]:

                            Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Brisingr Aerowing
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                            That just makes me sick.

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                              You're replacing a router with a G37? I hope you're getting the convertible[^].

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              That's funny Chris, I meant the other G37!, the ultimate in protection from outside forces. other g37 - surprise Actually your idea is better. That's a great looking car and yes the convertible for a little Sunday Cruise down PCH to Laguna Beach destination Las Brisas, and some Margarita's. I actually prefer Porsche 911's, just a fun driven car. Las Brisas over looking the Pacific Ocean

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                                BoingBoing[^]:

                                Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Septimus Hedgehog
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                                Information is everything and information is king. I've never studied the CodeProject T&C but does CP sell or give away the information about its almost 10 million subscribers? I'm sure there's a lot of information in there that other companies would like to harvest and tap into. Cisco is but one facet of a multi-faceted information diamond mine.

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                                  Information is everything and information is king. I've never studied the CodeProject T&C but does CP sell or give away the information about its almost 10 million subscribers? I'm sure there's a lot of information in there that other companies would like to harvest and tap into. Cisco is but one facet of a multi-faceted information diamond mine.

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                                  PHS241 wrote:

                                  I've never studied the CodeProject T&C

                                  Oooo! You checked a box when you signed up, stating that you had read and understood the conditions... Did you not send an email first requesting clearance to join without clause 17.14.2.8(iii)? The one handing CodeProject all your worldly goods? Everyone else did! The site TOS are pretty clear: "Registration information becomes the non-exclusive property of The Code Project and may be used by The Code Project for market research, marketing, improvements to our Services, and for such purposes as may be set out in our privacy statement." http://www.codeproject.com/info/TermsOfUse.aspx[^], section 5

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                                    PHS241 wrote:

                                    I've never studied the CodeProject T&C

                                    Oooo! You checked a box when you signed up, stating that you had read and understood the conditions... Did you not send an email first requesting clearance to join without clause 17.14.2.8(iii)? The one handing CodeProject all your worldly goods? Everyone else did! The site TOS are pretty clear: "Registration information becomes the non-exclusive property of The Code Project and may be used by The Code Project for market research, marketing, improvements to our Services, and for such purposes as may be set out in our privacy statement." http://www.codeproject.com/info/TermsOfUse.aspx[^], section 5

                                    Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                    You also get your very own Bob[^].

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                                      And Cisco just made my list of "brands to never buy". If a free service wants to try and track me that's one thing (they have to pay their bills too, but that doesn't mean I'll make it easy for them to do it), but I will not have a product I paid for using my information as an additional revenue stream, nor will I give a company the option to shut down my personal equipment.

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                                      RafagaX
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                                      I was considering buying some Cisco equipment, with this, i believe i will look elsewhere. :doh:

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                                        Information is everything and information is king. I've never studied the CodeProject T&C but does CP sell or give away the information about its almost 10 million subscribers? I'm sure there's a lot of information in there that other companies would like to harvest and tap into. Cisco is but one facet of a multi-faceted information diamond mine.

                                        "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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                                        RafagaX
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                                        Welcome to the future, where goods you buy also track you for your own sake (hold on i believe i have seen this before, start with A and end with pple), what the hell is Cisco thinking of?, it is dealing with technology professionals that recommends their products, if we don't it will simply vanish from the picture.

                                        CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                          PHS241 wrote:

                                          I've never studied the CodeProject T&C

                                          Oooo! You checked a box when you signed up, stating that you had read and understood the conditions... Did you not send an email first requesting clearance to join without clause 17.14.2.8(iii)? The one handing CodeProject all your worldly goods? Everyone else did! The site TOS are pretty clear: "Registration information becomes the non-exclusive property of The Code Project and may be used by The Code Project for market research, marketing, improvements to our Services, and for such purposes as may be set out in our privacy statement." http://www.codeproject.com/info/TermsOfUse.aspx[^], section 5

                                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                          TNCaver
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                                          In this usage, what is the definition of "non-exclusive property"? And how can my "personal and demographic information as prompted by the applicable registration form" ever be anyone's property but my own, whether exclusive or non-exclusive? Is my name and/or username now the property of The Code Project? My home or email addresses? If so, that's very disturbing. Can I terminate TCP's claim by closing my account?

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