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  • L Lost User

    Expensive buggers they are, so I got to thinking, how about a swimming pond. Dig a hole with sloping sides and with a deep end. Chuck in some blue liner, available from some pond supply shops, and stick in the usual pumps and filters. Looks like for a big pool the whole thing could be done for around 5k euros instead of 25k. Anyone done this or know of it being done? Got any advice? Tips?

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    Personally, I just go to the big one about a mile east of my house.

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    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

      I think there is an issue with cleaning, pools made this way (and there are loads) are harder to clean than tile/smooth concret types, and from I hear the cleaning of pools is the big headache. ps if you do do it this way it is advisable to put down a layer of sand before putting the liner down, this stops any debris from puncturing your liner (a sod of a job if it does)

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      Yes, I think the way the liner lays is important in that if there are too many folds then dirt and algae can collect. Also I was thinking of the 'infinity' type pool, ie with an overflow on one side. These stay a lot cleaner since the surface is sucked off repeatedly taking floating debris with it. I was also going to go for a salt water pool. These stay cleaner than chlorine pools too. Not sure why though. Beyond that I dont foresee many issues. Many pools use PVC liners so with the usual pumps filters and chemicals it should be OK. re the sand, yes. Pond supply firms do underlay, I was thinking about both. The big advantage is the size of the thing you can do. A pond can be very cheap even when very large, and the second is the interesting shapes one can do: Pools are kind of boring. Rectangular, and really for swimming. A pomd has a far more interesting shape and will be better for playing in IMO.

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        Don't. You are probably be bitch slapped by the local building code inspectors or your nice neighbors when the liner leak. Make it legit, spend the money and enjoy it, even for a small "pond".

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        Neighbours are far enough away, the land is as dry as a bone, and building regs is almost non existent here. Seriously, you can pretty much build what you like, no one really cares. :)

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          Personally, I just go to the big one about a mile east of my house.

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          Yeah but you cant swim naked with a G and T in your hand. :)

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          • L Lost User

            Yeah but you cant swim naked with a G and T in your hand. :)

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            What part of the states are you in? So I can be sure never to go there?

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            • L Lost User

              Expensive buggers they are, so I got to thinking, how about a swimming pond. Dig a hole with sloping sides and with a deep end. Chuck in some blue liner, available from some pond supply shops, and stick in the usual pumps and filters. Looks like for a big pool the whole thing could be done for around 5k euros instead of 25k. Anyone done this or know of it being done? Got any advice? Tips?

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              Are you aware that swimming pools tend to be filled with water, and that using them usually means that some of that water will touch your skin? Advice: no swimming pool.

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                Yes, I think the way the liner lays is important in that if there are too many folds then dirt and algae can collect. Also I was thinking of the 'infinity' type pool, ie with an overflow on one side. These stay a lot cleaner since the surface is sucked off repeatedly taking floating debris with it. I was also going to go for a salt water pool. These stay cleaner than chlorine pools too. Not sure why though. Beyond that I dont foresee many issues. Many pools use PVC liners so with the usual pumps filters and chemicals it should be OK. re the sand, yes. Pond supply firms do underlay, I was thinking about both. The big advantage is the size of the thing you can do. A pond can be very cheap even when very large, and the second is the interesting shapes one can do: Pools are kind of boring. Rectangular, and really for swimming. A pomd has a far more interesting shape and will be better for playing in IMO.

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                BilliousBob wrote:

                sucked off repeatedly taking floating debris with it

                Beautifully phrased.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  What part of the states are you in? So I can be sure never to go there?

                  Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                  I think he's in Belgium; you know, that non-country that no one has ever heard of. He's a close friend of sponge-bob square pants. (It's so funny I've used it twice).

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                    I think he's in Belgium; you know, that non-country that no one has ever heard of. He's a close friend of sponge-bob square pants. (It's so funny I've used it twice).

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                    Ah. I've been there. Once. Wasn't planning to go back anyway...nice beer though!

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                    • L Lost User

                      Expensive buggers they are, so I got to thinking, how about a swimming pond. Dig a hole with sloping sides and with a deep end. Chuck in some blue liner, available from some pond supply shops, and stick in the usual pumps and filters. Looks like for a big pool the whole thing could be done for around 5k euros instead of 25k. Anyone done this or know of it being done? Got any advice? Tips?

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                      There is actually a way of building a pool using pool liners instead of concrete. Problem a) if your pool needs draining in the summer -- forget it. You'll lose your liner b) use the wrong cleaner and it will suck up your liner. :doh: c) still need the same chemicals and just as much to keep clean

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                      • L Lost User

                        Yeah but you cant swim naked with a G and T in your hand. :)

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                        BilliousBob wrote:

                        swim naked with a G and T in your hand

                        Now, there's an image in my mind I could have easily lived without. :((

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          What part of the states are you in? So I can be sure never to go there?

                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                          France actually. :)

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                            Are you aware that swimming pools tend to be filled with water, and that using them usually means that some of that water will touch your skin? Advice: no swimming pool.

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                            And... why is that a problem? :confused:

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                              Yes, I think the way the liner lays is important in that if there are too many folds then dirt and algae can collect. Also I was thinking of the 'infinity' type pool, ie with an overflow on one side. These stay a lot cleaner since the surface is sucked off repeatedly taking floating debris with it. I was also going to go for a salt water pool. These stay cleaner than chlorine pools too. Not sure why though. Beyond that I dont foresee many issues. Many pools use PVC liners so with the usual pumps filters and chemicals it should be OK. re the sand, yes. Pond supply firms do underlay, I was thinking about both. The big advantage is the size of the thing you can do. A pond can be very cheap even when very large, and the second is the interesting shapes one can do: Pools are kind of boring. Rectangular, and really for swimming. A pomd has a far more interesting shape and will be better for playing in IMO.

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                              I was also going to go for a salt water pool. These stay cleaner than chlorine pools too. Not sure why though.

                              Because they're automatic-ish. You don't have to reply on your memory to refill the chlorine dispensers. ;)

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                              • W wizardzz

                                My extended family did something similar and stocked it with fish. It was safe to swim in, too, at least I think so, because we weren't not allowed to.

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                                wizardzz wrote:

                                because we weren't not allowed to.

                                The standard explanation for the male species...

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                                  There is actually a way of building a pool using pool liners instead of concrete. Problem a) if your pool needs draining in the summer -- forget it. You'll lose your liner b) use the wrong cleaner and it will suck up your liner. :doh: c) still need the same chemicals and just as much to keep clean

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                                  Yeah, many pools use liners, over concrete or concrete and panels. As far as I know they can be emptied though. Fiberglass is different though, if it is emptied it can deform, which sounds crap to me.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    France actually. :)

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                                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                                    So you've moved from France-Lite to France proper? What do you have to show at the border to cross? A white flag? :-)

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      And... why is that a problem? :confused:

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                                      Well go ahead then, it's your skin

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        So you've moved from France-Lite to France proper? What do you have to show at the border to cross? A white flag? :-)

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                        I used to think Belgium was France lite till I realised half of it speaks Dutch! :)

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                                          So you've moved from France-Lite to France proper? What do you have to show at the border to cross? A white flag? :-)

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                          What was it, the Eskimos have 30 words for snow and the French 200 for surrender? I jest, but what are they going to do complain to the U.N. about it then ignore the resolution anyway?

                                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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