Antivirus
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Yeah, I used it 3 months and switched back to ESET. I had 3 malware entities on the computer. Microsoft isn't paying much attention to this product. It is free but at what costs. ESET isn't the best but it is better than MSSE.
I submitted a Virus detected by a different AV to them (More since it was 2am and I was bored, than the fact I actually cared...), and it was added to an update definition within 24 hours :wtf: So I've generally had good experiences with MSE (Except attempting to open a folder containing +- 1TB worth of files in +- 100 folders - MSE decides to scan everything before it lets you open anything, resulting in about a 10s freeze every time I open my "Series" folder on a new boot :~)
-= Reelix =-
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Fully 99% of virus protection is refusing to open/download/visit every website/attachment/link that features omg, this is so cute you must see this! I actually changed my email address and only passed it out to people who didn't have a history of sending me attachments or links to every bit of garbage they find on the webnets. Nobody needs free e-cards or a link to musical farting bunny rabbits. If you spend your time with those things you will get a virus. Period.
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I would go further and change Mac to a microwave, since MW has no viruses at all. From my 22 years experiense I was infected may be 2-3 times, NEVER EVER having any antivirus software. Why? Just same principle like you wash hands every time before eating: 1. NEVER run any exe/com/bat coming from email. Even if it comes from your mom. ESPECIALLY if it come from your mom. 2. Switch off any web-sh*t like a flash, music, video. Disallow JS to change windows shape (Opera can do it best way). 3. Always check any DVD you've bought, esp. pirate. 4. Never click any banner, "earn here" and so on shitylinks. 5. Put some firewall to control every cr@p accessing IN. I use BWMeter, it's enough. 6. Keep archives of everything priceless like your photo with american flag - on a separate HDD or flash. Never ever use for backup cr@p like CD/DVD - it's unreliable and it's dead. Like this!
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I've never been hit by a virus. I attribute that to clean living :laugh: I've never been a fan of any antivirus simply because they can give you a false sense of security. The first thing a virus writer DOES NOT DO...is contact the antivirus companies. You are only protected from known virii. My spousal-unit's computer picked up a virus that I had to remove and as I picked it apart I was amused by how the first thing it did was run through a list of steps that disabled the AV software she had installed. Her only clue that she was infected came from her not being able to get updates and then attempts to go to an antivirus vendor's site would GPF the browser. At one time a relative brought me their computer because it was running so slow and I found over 45 active viruses on it. :wtf: I told them it was easier to reformat the drive than it was to attempt eradication. Back to my clean living... o I have Windows set to display all files AND extensions. o I hover my cursor over links and compare the labels to the links. o I READ the links to look for smelly ones, like www.microsoft.special.deal.com and that they don't have miss spellings in the URLs. o I've also been known to view the source to make sure there is not an event that will trigger that will change the address of the URL. o Need I mention never to run a program you do not know where it came from? Especially those that show up in your mailbox from relatives? If it does come from a friend I feel is technically good, but does contain anything in the accompanying message that convinces me that it could only come from them, I send a message or better yet, call them to confirm it did come from them. Yes, I've heard there are sites I can go to that will bypass all those checks, but I either type the URLs myself or if I have the least suspicion, I have a computer that does not share anything that I do have an AV running on (makes it terribly slow) and visit the site from there. Listing these steps makes me sound more paranoid than I really am. I have no illusions that I am exempt, but I've caught several attempts to infect my machine following these steps. I'll take that back, I was infected once, but it was when I was using a Mac, back when floppy use on them tended to be almost incestuous from all the inserting, ejecting, re-insertion, before there were hard drives. :sigh:
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do
BrainiacV wrote:
o I hover my cursor over links and compare the labels to the links.
That can be faked (The URL displayed at the bottom left of the browser window is not necessarily the URL it's actually going to) For a simple example, create an "a href' with an onclick event that does a redirect to an unrelated link - See which takes priority, and see which appears to the user ;) -= Reelix =-
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I do the following and have caught all viruses for the past 5 years Nothing has totally trashed me. Some have had to be removed by MalwareBytes after the fact. It has removed all of them so far. 1. Run AVG as the Active Monitor. 2. Run SuperAntiSpyware weekly - finds some Spyware, Adware, Malware that AVG may not. 3. Run MalwareBytes weekly - finds some Trojans others do not. 4. Run Glary Utilities weekly - finds some IE Activex Malware that others may not with its IE Assistant. Occasionally ( a couple of times a month) I also do extra scans with PC Tools Spyware Doctor - very thorough but a bit slow. The only one that is not Free is AVG, since I use its Active Monitor. Most free versions do not allow active monitoring in the shareware version. I try to keep my browser temporary files, other temporaries, and browser history cleaned off to minimize the potential of hidden payloads. One, that I consider a Malware 'Open Candy', slipped through all of these when I installed WinSCP. It was easily removed manually. Open Candy published removal instructions - they say they are not a Malware product. A lot of Viruses come from overseas. It is important to pick software that considers this. That is why I prefer some overseas AV software over domestic products. Their engines and definitions address this sooner. For example, AVG rather than Norton. This may seem like a lot of scans, but on my system they usually take 4 - 8 minutes each. Not a lot of overhead since they are used periodically. AVG is fast and very low overhead as an Active Scanner.
"Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"
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Thornik wrote:
2. Switch off any web-sh*t like a flash, music, video.
YouTube must be annoyed with you right now ;p
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Install "Download Master" and forget about "youtube.com" :) - it can download video directly.
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Install "Download Master" and forget about "youtube.com" :) - it can download video directly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blabla123 - Insert sing just after the www (Remove the s on https if there) --> http://www.singyoutube.com/watch?v=blabla123 Enjoy your ripped audio / video :p
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dpminusa wrote:
2. Run SuperAntiSpyware weekly - finds some Spyware, Adware, Malware that AVG may not.
I've heard fake AV's with more realistic sounding names ;/
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I see your point. These are all products I have used successfully for several years. I guess the funky names are attempts to having marketing impact. They all have strengths and weaknesses for scanning. MalwareBytes Strength: Finding and Removing Trojans. SuperAntiSpyware Strength: Finding and Removing Adware and Spyware. etc.
"Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blabla123 - Insert sing just after the www (Remove the s on https if there) --> http://www.singyoutube.com/watch?v=blabla123 Enjoy your ripped audio / video :p
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BrainiacV wrote:
o I hover my cursor over links and compare the labels to the links.
That can be faked (The URL displayed at the bottom left of the browser window is not necessarily the URL it's actually going to) For a simple example, create an "a href' with an onclick event that does a redirect to an unrelated link - See which takes priority, and see which appears to the user ;) -= Reelix =-
Yeah, I covered that as well. If I'm not happy with the e-mail in general, I may look at the source as well. I found a few times where some script kiddie bungled the code they obviously cut and pasted and then tried to set an event to change the value on the click event.
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.