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  • P Paul Riley

    Looking at the thread below, I got to thinking. People often talk about classic movies and trash movies, but what about those movies that aren't really good enough to be classics but are certainly up there in the top 10%. Many movies slip under the radar for no reason I can see and nobody ever talks about them. The Negotiator would come top of the list for me, that almost is good enough to be considered classic. Stigmata, Stir of Echoes, Idle Hands, One Night at McCool's spring readily to mind. Go seems to have a small cult following but a lot of people have never heard of it. Any more thoughts? Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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    Well, I don't know whether about underrated, but my favourite movie is "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. Max Von Sydow and Cuba Gooding are brilliant in it too. :) It's probably not one for the guys though - it has me weeping every time I watch it! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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      Paul Riley wrote: The Negotiator would come top of the list for me Is that the one with kevin spacey and samuel jackson ? That is a great movie, there's a real tension in that movie! Another one that comes close is "The Siege" with annette bening and denzel washington; the first scene when the bus explodes is frightening! Max.

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      Maximilien wrote: Is that the one with kevin spacey and samuel jackson ? Yep, that's the one. I think it asks too many questions about who the good guy is for most people; or maybe it's just one of these "all been done before" situations, ignoring the fact that this does it just as well if not better. That was the problem with Stir of Echoes too, coming as it did just behind Sixth Sense and having a similar feel. Totally different feel but people can't help comparing them. Maximilien wrote: Another one that comes close is "The Siege" with annette bening and denzel washington Never seen that, despite being a fan of Bening, Washington and Willis. Strange that. Speaking of Annette Bening - In Dreams is another very unpopular movie that I thought was great. Very disturbing. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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        Well, I don't know whether about underrated, but my favourite movie is "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. Max Von Sydow and Cuba Gooding are brilliant in it too. :) It's probably not one for the guys though - it has me weeping every time I watch it! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. That looks kind of cool for such a dubious premise. I keep meaning to see it, never get around to it. Not all chick-flicks are bad... City of Angels was cool and had absolutely everything going against it: the plot, Meg Ryan, a TV director. Can't say it had me weeping, I'm not easy to bring to tears when I watch a movie. I confess I was close watching Iron Giant though... how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand. :laugh: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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          Well, I don't know whether about underrated, but my favourite movie is "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. Max Von Sydow and Cuba Gooding are brilliant in it too. :) It's probably not one for the guys though - it has me weeping every time I watch it! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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          http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/w/what_dreams.html[^] Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. That looks kind of cool for such a dubious premise. I keep meaning to see it, never get around to it. Not all chick-flicks are bad... City of Angels was cool and had absolutely everything going against it: the plot, Meg Ryan, a TV director. Can't say it had me weeping, I'm not easy to bring to tears when I watch a movie. I confess I was close watching Iron Giant though... how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand. :laugh: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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            Paul Riley wrote: That looks kind of cool for such a dubious premise. I keep meaning to see it, never get around to it. Not all chick-flicks are bad... City of Angels was cool and had absolutely everything going against it: the plot, Meg Ryan, a TV director. I'd never heard of it the first time I came across it, and it had me in floods even then. At the time I hadn't even started hormones, so I can't blame them - I guess I'm just more emotional than most. :rolleyes: City of Angels is another one though - I've got both on DVD, though how I reconcile that with some of the others I've got I don't know! :laugh: Right now I'm waiting for Red Dwarf II[^] to come out on DVD. :) Paul Riley wrote: Can't say it had me weeping, I'm not easy to bring to tears when I watch a movie. I confess I was close watching Iron Giant though... how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand. It's amazing how little the format matters. Get the right story, and our emotions will find a way to come through. :) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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              Well, I don't know whether about underrated, but my favourite movie is "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. Max Von Sydow and Cuba Gooding are brilliant in it too. :) It's probably not one for the guys though - it has me weeping every time I watch it! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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              Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "What Dreams May Come" I loved that movie :) * benjymous makes a mental note to add that to his list of future DVD purchases Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: it has me weeping every time I watch it! I cried at the end of Monsters Inc the other week :| Though I attribute that to the fact that I was sat alone with a bottle of vodka for company -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Annabella Sciorra. That looks kind of cool for such a dubious premise. I keep meaning to see it, never get around to it. Not all chick-flicks are bad... City of Angels was cool and had absolutely everything going against it: the plot, Meg Ryan, a TV director. Can't say it had me weeping, I'm not easy to bring to tears when I watch a movie. I confess I was close watching Iron Giant though... how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand. :laugh: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                Paul Riley wrote: how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand See my comment below about Monsters Inc -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                  Paul Riley wrote: That looks kind of cool for such a dubious premise. I keep meaning to see it, never get around to it. Not all chick-flicks are bad... City of Angels was cool and had absolutely everything going against it: the plot, Meg Ryan, a TV director. I'd never heard of it the first time I came across it, and it had me in floods even then. At the time I hadn't even started hormones, so I can't blame them - I guess I'm just more emotional than most. :rolleyes: City of Angels is another one though - I've got both on DVD, though how I reconcile that with some of the others I've got I don't know! :laugh: Right now I'm waiting for Red Dwarf II[^] to come out on DVD. :) Paul Riley wrote: Can't say it had me weeping, I'm not easy to bring to tears when I watch a movie. I confess I was close watching Iron Giant though... how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand. It's amazing how little the format matters. Get the right story, and our emotions will find a way to come through. :) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Right now I'm waiting for Red Dwarf II[^] to come out on DVD Smeg! Gotta love the Dwarf. I bought all the videos but now I don't have a VCR, so I keep toying with the idea of buying the DVDs. I just can't find much point in the end; UK Gold seems to show an entire series in a night at least once a month, I just watch those. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It's amazing how little the format matters. Get the right story, and our emotions will find a way to come through. Quite. Problem is that I'm too logical, I get engrossed but some part of me deep down can't help realising that it's only fiction. That said, this week's episode of Jeremiah (on Sky, UK, for those who are way ahead of us) got to me. I don't ever remember a TV series affecting me like that one. Excellent stuff. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                    Paul Riley wrote: how the hell they managed to do that with a cartoon I'll never understand See my comment below about Monsters Inc -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                    benjymous wrote: See my comment below about Monsters Inc :sigh of relief: At least I'm not the only one, that's cool :-D Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "What Dreams May Come" I loved that movie :) * benjymous makes a mental note to add that to his list of future DVD purchases Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: it has me weeping every time I watch it! I cried at the end of Monsters Inc the other week :| Though I attribute that to the fact that I was sat alone with a bottle of vodka for company -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                      benjymous wrote: Though I attribute that to the fact that I was sat alone with a bottle of vodka for company Been there, done that! :laugh: I get monster hangovers on vodka (appropriate, given the movie you were watching ;)) so I tend to avoid it. One couple I know can go through a bottle in a night, so when I go round there I try to make sure I've got lots of alternatives handy otherwise I'll probably lose the following two days. :rolleyes: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                        Looking at the thread below, I got to thinking. People often talk about classic movies and trash movies, but what about those movies that aren't really good enough to be classics but are certainly up there in the top 10%. Many movies slip under the radar for no reason I can see and nobody ever talks about them. The Negotiator would come top of the list for me, that almost is good enough to be considered classic. Stigmata, Stir of Echoes, Idle Hands, One Night at McCool's spring readily to mind. Go seems to have a small cult following but a lot of people have never heard of it. Any more thoughts? Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                        The Princess Bride! I love it still. It may be sentimental crap but ahhhhh, brilliant! :-D Paul Riley wrote: The Negotiator, Stir of Echoes I have these in my vid collection. :) Both are cool films. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 WHats brown and sticky? A stick or some smelly stuff!

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                          benjymous wrote: Donnie Darko is very good, and virtually nobody has seen it Hmmm... I'm not sure the movie rated at #90 in IMDb's top 250 really qualifies as underrated, though I admit I hadn't heard of it before. :laugh: Another one I just thought of was "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil". Startling film. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                          Paul Riley wrote: Another one I just thought of was "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil". The book was better... but was definitely not overrated! :)

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                            The Princess Bride! I love it still. It may be sentimental crap but ahhhhh, brilliant! :-D Paul Riley wrote: The Negotiator, Stir of Echoes I have these in my vid collection. :) Both are cool films. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 WHats brown and sticky? A stick or some smelly stuff!

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                            Roger Allen wrote: The Princess Bride! I love it still. It may be sentimental crap but ahhhhh, brilliant! Great film, but again it's pretty popular. #87 on IMDb's top 200, not far below my personal favourite Blade Runner. I don't know anyone who's seen Princess Bride and not loved it. [edit]Besides, Krull has to be the mosst underrated sentimental fantasy film ( "it's not the weapon that defeats the monster, it's love" "So what? It's a f***ing cool weapon" :laugh: )[/edit] I'm trying to get some ideas for films I might just have completely missed here :laugh:. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                              Paul Riley wrote: Another one I just thought of was "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil". The book was better... but was definitely not overrated! :)

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                              Shog9 wrote: The book was better I've heard that said before. Is it worth reading once you've seen the film (five or six times) and know how it ends? Some books, although better than the movie, just don't work once you know the story. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                benjymous wrote: Though I attribute that to the fact that I was sat alone with a bottle of vodka for company Been there, done that! :laugh: I get monster hangovers on vodka (appropriate, given the movie you were watching ;)) so I tend to avoid it. One couple I know can go through a bottle in a night, so when I go round there I try to make sure I've got lots of alternatives handy otherwise I'll probably lose the following two days. :rolleyes: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I'll probably lose the following two days Isn't that the point? :~ ;) Oh, and What Dreams May Come was great (not just for the girls IMO) and Monsters Inc. rocks. Shrek is better though...

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                                  Shog9 wrote: The book was better I've heard that said before. Is it worth reading once you've seen the film (five or six times) and know how it ends? Some books, although better than the movie, just don't work once you know the story. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                  Paul Riley wrote: Is it worth reading once you've seen the film (five or six times) and know how it ends? Can't really say, i read the book long before the movie was out. But, there's a *lot* in the book that wasn't in the movie, and the story is far less linear and far more interesting (IMHO), so i'd say go for it - if you can read the first chapter or two without getting bored, you'll enjoy the whole thing. :)

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                                    Looking at the thread below, I got to thinking. People often talk about classic movies and trash movies, but what about those movies that aren't really good enough to be classics but are certainly up there in the top 10%. Many movies slip under the radar for no reason I can see and nobody ever talks about them. The Negotiator would come top of the list for me, that almost is good enough to be considered classic. Stigmata, Stir of Echoes, Idle Hands, One Night at McCool's spring readily to mind. Go seems to have a small cult following but a lot of people have never heard of it. Any more thoughts? Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                    Paul Riley wrote: Any more thoughts? A couple: - Burgundy pepper roast beef sandwiches are really quite good. - Waking Life is a suprisingly enjoyable movie, even when sober.

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                                      Paul Riley wrote: Is it worth reading once you've seen the film (five or six times) and know how it ends? Can't really say, i read the book long before the movie was out. But, there's a *lot* in the book that wasn't in the movie, and the story is far less linear and far more interesting (IMHO), so i'd say go for it - if you can read the first chapter or two without getting bored, you'll enjoy the whole thing. :)

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                                      Sounds fair. I seem to be going through about four books a month at the moment, so it can't hurt, can it? :) Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                        Paul Riley wrote: Any more thoughts? A couple: - Burgundy pepper roast beef sandwiches are really quite good. - Waking Life is a suprisingly enjoyable movie, even when sober.

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                                        Shog9 wrote: - Burgundy pepper roast beef sandwiches are really quite good. Mmm-mmmm. Now I'm hungry. Damn my wife for going to college on a Wednesday night, I don't get to eat til she brings the pizzas back at 9:30 PM. Shog9 wrote: - Waking Life is a suprisingly enjoyable movie, even when sober. Now we're talking. I'd never heard of that, I'll keep an eye out for it. Sounds trippy. Another surprisingly cool film on the screwed up end of the scale is "Last Night". An end of the world film with a difference (like you don't even know why the world is about to end, only that it is). Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                          Shog9 wrote: - Burgundy pepper roast beef sandwiches are really quite good. Mmm-mmmm. Now I'm hungry. Damn my wife for going to college on a Wednesday night, I don't get to eat til she brings the pizzas back at 9:30 PM. Shog9 wrote: - Waking Life is a suprisingly enjoyable movie, even when sober. Now we're talking. I'd never heard of that, I'll keep an eye out for it. Sounds trippy. Another surprisingly cool film on the screwed up end of the scale is "Last Night". An end of the world film with a difference (like you don't even know why the world is about to end, only that it is). Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                          Paul Riley wrote: I'd never heard of that, I'll keep an eye out for it. Sounds trippy. Yeah... that's a good description. If you do watch, commit yourself to watching it all the way through, even if by the time you're half-way through it's really starting to piss you off (it may not, but fair warning...). It comes together later in a way that both compensates and justifies the earlier portions. Have fun... ;) Paul Riley wrote: Another surprisingly cool film on the screwed up end of the scale is "Last Night". Hmm, i'll watch for that then!

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