Ok Which was very your first programming language?
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSSinclair Basic, on my ZX Spectrum 48K...! :) back in '84-'85. Those were the days. And because I didn't had enough allowance to buy a tape recorder, I wrote my first 2-3 games out of a coding book to play for as long as speccy was on... :)
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My memory is a little hazy now, lol, but I think you're right. I do remember that most cartridges loaded at 8192 (autorunning from there), and I also had an 8Kb (!) memory extension board, with a slot which allowed another (e.g. game) cartridge to be loaded at the same time. The extra 8K of memory normally loaded at address 16384, but was jumper switchable to load at 8192. That was «cough» useful, because it enabled me to load a game cartridge, without the autorun feature activating! This in turn let me "peek" the ROM cartridge bytes and "poke" them to the RAM underneath (RAM loaded at 8192 was effectively "write only" when a ROM cartridge was also loaded at 8192 :-)) That in turn allowed me to «cough, cough» "backup" a friend's cartridge game "Cookie Monsters" (Commodore version of pacman :-)) I switched the RAM module back to load at 16384, inserted my dis/assembler cartridge, and hand edited every absolute address I could find until the game worked correctly. Took me a few days LOL, and after I'd done it I immediately lost interest in the game, but it was fun! I used a similar trick to add a few "missing" (well, undocumented) 6502 assembler mnemonics to the Commodore dis/assembler (after figuring out how the letters of each mnemonic e.g. LDA, STA etc. were used to create a lookup key for the instruction codes themselves. If I remember correctly, "LDA" was 160 / 0xA0 :-)) Which reminds me, a year before I started programming my VIC, I was typing in BASIC programs (from computer magazines) on Commodore PETs (40x24 green screen) at the local Further Education college! And my interest in assembly programming was piqued even then, when I saw one of the other (couple of years older) boys performing hex edits of a "Space Invaders" clone, altering the speed and number of rows of aliens :-) Then I grew up and became a C++ programmer LOL.
Haha that's insane! But I was no better. The datasette decks for our PETs never worked so I couldn't back-up the code I was writing for my Computer Studies 'O' level, so instead I had to print it out and then retype the lot the following day to work on it again :) After that I wrote an assembler, using a 6502 assembly language book, and basing it on the AJ Trott one we had that only worked for a few days before some lummox broke one of the pins off the ROM. (Wasn't me, honest!). My assembler worked ok but I could never get the disassembler working, for some reason I never figured out. I've actually still got a CBM3032 in my shed, with 1541 disk drive and printer. It worked the last time I switched in on (about 12 years ago) - probably doesn't now. Might have to try it when I get home now... :)
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSGW-Basic, 1991.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSTurbo Pascal 3.0 on 1987, when I was on the last year of high school :cool:
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSBASIC on a TRS-80 at the back of the Math classroom in High School - 1980. Soon got my own TRS-80 Color Computer. Shortly thereafter got frustrated at the limits of 4K (yeah 4096) bytes of RAM - couldn't write very interesting games with 4K. Began poking Motorola 6809 instruction into memory. Imagine my joy upon discovering there was something called "Assembly Language". Ah well, memory lane...
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSA friend tried to start me off "the right way" by throwing a book on DEC PDP-8/I assembler programming at me. I struggled for a couple weeks trying to get my head around accumulator registers, flags and address space. A friend of his said, "Psst, Wanna write a program?" And showed me how to write a one line program in FOCAL-8. After seeing it I screamed, "THAT'S IT? That's all I have to do?" and I was off to the races. I quickly ran into the limits of FOCAL and moved to BASIC (back when you had to use the LET command to do assignments). But I always remembered that the assembler and machine code were behind it all and eventually wrote all sorts of utilities for the TSS-8/I operating system in PALD-8. After that it was FORTRAN and COBOL.
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
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Metro RSSmine was MAD Michigan Algorithm Decoder and then FORTRAN
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
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Metro RSSHoneywell 6000 GMAP and IBM FORTRAN IV - 1979.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSWhatever version of BASIC was used on the GE, yes General Electric made computers at one time, Timesharing service in 1970. When I went on to University it was IBM 360 Assembler, COBOL, and PL/I.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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FORTRAN IV, in the IVth form at a private school in Delaware, where we students who were taking the class were granted hands-on, unsupervised access, punching our cards, loading compilers, AFIT subroutines in this air-conditioned room in the basement. The best lesson was discovering that the world didn't end when I made the machine crash (the first time was an accident, honest!), and then demonstrated that fact to my friends. Repeatedly - that flashing red button was pretty cool! (and nobody outside the room was the wiser). That empowering discovery (crash, restart) transformed the great and powerful OZ (aka IBM 360) into a simple man behind the curtain ("pay no attention..."), and ever since, no machine has ever intimidated me. Except that one portable kitchen mixer I couldn't put back together, after I opened the case and this little spring flew out...
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSFORTRAN IV, in the 4th form at a private school in Delaware, where we students who were taking the class were granted hands-on, unsupervised access, punching our cards, loading compilers, AFIT subroutines, etc... in an air-conditioned room in the basement of the main building. The best lesson was discovering that the world didn't end when I made the machine crash (the first time was an accident, honest!), and then demonstrated that fact to my friends. Repeatedly - that flashing red button was pretty cool! (and nobody outside the room was the wiser). That empowering discovery (crash, restart) transformed the great and powerful OZ (aka IBM 360) into a simple man behind the curtain ("pay no attention..."), and ever since, no machine has ever intimidated me. Except that one portable kitchen mixer I couldn't put back together, after I opened the case and this little spring flew out...
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Apple 2e + ProDOS + assembler
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
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z80 assembly back on the TI-85 back in 93-94'. Then on to x86 assembly, turbo pascal and turbo c.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSTAPS, Three Address Programming System, for an IBM 650. 1961. The IBM 650 was a drum machine with 2,000 word capacity. The third address was the address of the next instruction, one had to be concerned with the length of time of the current instruction took to execute so you would not waste a complete revolution.
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Mine was McDonnell Douglas Basic + Assembler + Proc (Eq Java) + English (SQL) and Assembler. What was yours?
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSIBM Assembly in the late 60's. Followed by Fortran - compared to assembly I thought it was easy. Apple Basic in '79 - I thought the immediate results was magic compared to waiting a day or two to run a Fortran program on a mainframe. I also custom hacked the Basic Assembly Code which Apple loaded from a ROM into RAM.
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Mine was GW-Basic... :laugh:
I've used a couple of variations of basic mainly back when I was using HPs to control test equipment. Other than that tried to stay away from it. My last job I used an old version of Visual Basic and it had progressed quite a bit but like the C based languages a lot better. C/C++/C#
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