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  • L Lost User

    I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

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    Lost User
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    What part of the following do you not understand: 1: Estimate 8 hours. 2: Do it in 15 seconds. 3: Spend the rest of the day on the CP Doom server. My team could use a bit of help. I think the Canadians cheat.

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    • L Lost User

      I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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      S Houghtelin
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      ChrisElston wrote:

      I have replied that it will take 15 seconds.

      :doh: Should've told them it would take 3 weeks, plus a field visit (to someplace nice) for 2 weeks, come back and finish the request a week early and you look the hero.

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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      • L Lost User

        I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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        Dalek Dave
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        Ye Dinnae unnerstan capn. These warp nacelles were never meant to take such a beat'n It's gonna take my team aboot 4 hours!

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          Ye Dinnae unnerstan capn. These warp nacelles were never meant to take such a beat'n It's gonna take my team aboot 4 hours!

          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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          Lost User
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          It's funny because you have a whole team working on it.

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          • L Lost User

            I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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            Tim Corey
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            Rookie. :)

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            • L Lost User

              It's funny because you have a whole team working on it.

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              Dalek Dave
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              they all want 3 hours 59 minutes off as well!

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              • L Lost User

                What part of the following do you not understand: 1: Estimate 8 hours. 2: Do it in 15 seconds. 3: Spend the rest of the day on the CP Doom server. My team could use a bit of help. I think the Canadians cheat.

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                Sasha Laurel
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                Where might I find said Doom server? And is it Doom II, skulltag, or some other variant?

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                • L Lost User

                  I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                  Steve Mayfield
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                  But you did spend time at some point to come up with a solution - so that should be included in the estimate - and don't forget time for all of the paperwork (code documentation, user documentation updates (if any), testing procedures, submission to documentation control...etc) - that usually takes up most of the time anyway.

                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                  • L Lost User

                    I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    They didn't ask how long it will take, did they? Just tell them how long it already took to get "all the code work" done, and if they give you that time again, then that's their fault. :)

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    • L Lost User

                      I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Aargh! The network will go down! The server will crash! Your Windows license will corrupt, black-screening you! SOMETHING will happen to make you look an idiot!

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • L Lost User

                        What part of the following do you not understand: 1: Estimate 8 hours. 2: Do it in 15 seconds. 3: Spend the rest of the day on the CP Doom server. My team could use a bit of help. I think the Canadians cheat.

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                        LloydA111
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                        CodeProject has a DOOM server?!

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                        • L Lost User

                          I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                          R Erasmus
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                          We use Agile from the start... estimate in points. We can draw a time estimation from looking at what our average point burndown is per sprint. Say I burn an average of 20 points per sprint (2 weeks in our case). The task that was given I estimate to be 10 points, thus should take 1 week to finish.

                          "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                          • L Lost User

                            I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                            YvesDaoust
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                            A very very dangerous answer. If all goes well, will take 10 seconds indeed. But if any bug pops up (possibly because the system changed since) fixing will be a four hours task that you'll have to spend on your leisure time.

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                              Aargh! The network will go down! The server will crash! Your Windows license will corrupt, black-screening you! SOMETHING will happen to make you look an idiot!

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              CHill60
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                              Ah yes ... been there, worn that t-shirt :sigh:

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                              • L Lost User

                                I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                Now youve done it, the next time they want something doing they will look at this and say "oh it took 15 seconds to that one and this ones is easier, so he should be able to do it in 10" - handing you 15 hours of work

                                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                  sonalDR
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                                  I guess you have done a right thing....in case any bugs/obstacles come on the way just keep them informed....

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    What part of the following do you not understand: 1: Estimate 8 hours. 2: Do it in 15 seconds. 3: Spend the rest of the day on the CP Doom server. My team could use a bit of help. I think the Canadians cheat.

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                                    James Treworgy
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                                    Every self-respecting nerd should remember the words of Scotty (back from the dead) in the dyson sphere episode: Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Yeah, well, I told the Captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour. Scotty: How long will it really take? Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: An hour! Scotty: Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would *really* take, did ya? Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Well, of course I did. Scotty: Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                      BrainiacV
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                                      I used to structure my code so some of it was driven by a database. Many times the change took less time than it took for the principles to decide what they wanted done. I was telecommuting and at the end of the phone conference they'd ask how long would it take to implement and I'd say, "It's already done." In retrospect, I did not do myself any favors. I should have said "A week" and then announce later it was done ahead of schedule. Since the task did not get on any schedule, there was no record of my performance. Nothing I could point to anyway.

                                      Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                                        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                        Bruce Patin
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                                        One of my physics professors said that he would always ask for a grant to do what he had already done, then spend the time and grant money doing his next project, sending them the results of the first project when the second one is done.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I've just been emailed a Change Request, and asked to give an estimate of how long it will take me to implement. I have replied that it will take 15 seconds. When they first discussed the problem some months ago I worked on a few solutions to get my head around the problem as much as anything else. They have requested the way I suggested, and so all the code work is already done and I just have to upload one file and restart the service.

                                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                          stephen hazel
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                                          so you have no plans to - unit test your change or - regression test the system? I hope your system is teeny.

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