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  • B Big Daddy Farang

    And what about ... Clippy? :laugh:

    BDF I often make very large prints from unexposed film, and every one of them turns out to be a picture of myself as I once dreamed I would be. -- BillWoodruff

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    Tim Corey
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    Don't worry, Clippy-js[^] has you covered.

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    • B Big Daddy Farang

      And what about ... Clippy? :laugh:

      BDF I often make very large prints from unexposed film, and every one of them turns out to be a picture of myself as I once dreamed I would be. -- BillWoodruff

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      Mark_Wallace
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      I blame him on the 1970s.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • T Tim Corey

        Don't worry, Clippy-js[^] has you covered.

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Broken link; it's here[^].

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          Broken link; it's here[^].

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Fixed. Thanks.

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            The killer new features, from the article in the Daily News: -- "the File tab" Like, wasn't that a menu? -- " the new Design tab is where all the document-theming controls live now" Like, shouldn't that also go back to being a menu/toolbar? -- "Some other little features, though, are just right. I especially liked the way Word remembers your last position in a Word document when you reopen a file" So you mean that that little shift+F5 gem hasn't been available since at least Word 5 (when I started using it)? -- "A revised navigation pane makes it easier to jump through a document via predefined markers like outline levels." So the document map hasn't really been available since at least Word 2 (again, when I started using it)? I'm beginning to see the MSO 2007-2010 strategy: "Hide everything you possibly can from everyone, and make everything but the basics hard to get to, so that we can re-introduce it all later, as if it were new!"

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Since the ribbon was introduced, I felt that the office beccame harder to use. At least, more user training was required.

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              The killer new features, from the article in the Daily News: -- "the File tab" Like, wasn't that a menu? -- " the new Design tab is where all the document-theming controls live now" Like, shouldn't that also go back to being a menu/toolbar? -- "Some other little features, though, are just right. I especially liked the way Word remembers your last position in a Word document when you reopen a file" So you mean that that little shift+F5 gem hasn't been available since at least Word 5 (when I started using it)? -- "A revised navigation pane makes it easier to jump through a document via predefined markers like outline levels." So the document map hasn't really been available since at least Word 2 (again, when I started using it)? I'm beginning to see the MSO 2007-2010 strategy: "Hide everything you possibly can from everyone, and make everything but the basics hard to get to, so that we can re-introduce it all later, as if it were new!"

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Moshe Katz
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              I have been playing with Office 2013 for a day or so, and I have to say that it is is a fairly small evolutionary step forward from Office 2010. They broke a few small things, such as adding entirely unneeded additional space to the message list in Outlook. Despite what that other article says, the "File" tab is actually only slightly changed from Office 2010. The major change is that it now uses the full screen space (metro-style). It also makes a lot of sense to have all Document-Theme controls in the same place, IMHO. The "Document Map" has been available in Word 2007-2010 and I have used it extensively. They just tweaked it a bit for 2013. I have to say I completely disagree with your supposed MSO 2007-2010 strategy. I have yet to see any significant removed features in either Office 2007 or Office 2010 (besides for an Access-Excel-connection feature that Microsoft was sued about and forced to remove) and I find the context-sensitivity of the ribbon makes these versions much easier to use and teach than the old (2003 and older) versions. As Office-Watch and others point out, this preview of Office 2013 has a lot of work that it still needs, but so far I like what I see.

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              • T Tomz_KV

                Since the ribbon was introduced, I felt that the office beccame harder to use. At least, more user training was required.

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                Moshe Katz
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                Tomz_KV wrote:

                At least, more user training was required.

                In my experience, more user training was only required for users who were dead set against the ribbon, simply because it was a change, and therefore refused to learn. Since Office 2007 came out, I have taught Office usage to dozens of people and almost all of them have learned how to use it much faster than previous versions.

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                  Tomz_KV wrote:

                  At least, more user training was required.

                  In my experience, more user training was only required for users who were dead set against the ribbon, simply because it was a change, and therefore refused to learn. Since Office 2007 came out, I have taught Office usage to dozens of people and almost all of them have learned how to use it much faster than previous versions.

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                  Tomz_KV
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                  Good to know the positive side.

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    The killer new features, from the article in the Daily News: -- "the File tab" Like, wasn't that a menu? -- " the new Design tab is where all the document-theming controls live now" Like, shouldn't that also go back to being a menu/toolbar? -- "Some other little features, though, are just right. I especially liked the way Word remembers your last position in a Word document when you reopen a file" So you mean that that little shift+F5 gem hasn't been available since at least Word 5 (when I started using it)? -- "A revised navigation pane makes it easier to jump through a document via predefined markers like outline levels." So the document map hasn't really been available since at least Word 2 (again, when I started using it)? I'm beginning to see the MSO 2007-2010 strategy: "Hide everything you possibly can from everyone, and make everything but the basics hard to get to, so that we can re-introduce it all later, as if it were new!"

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    ClockMeister
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                    For my own use I'm through upgrading if this is where MS is going. I can't look at that Metro-ized stuff without getting a headache! I thought with Win7/Vista they were really headed in the right direction as far as the GUI is concerned. Now they're taking this HUGE step backwards in appearance. My Win7, Office 2003, VS2008 are going to get seriously old and gray because I see no upgrade path now. They can have Win8, Office and VS with their insipid, flat, colorless "Metro" interface. I've played with them and tried my best to "get it" but all I get is that headache I mentioned above. I don't particularly care if it's an evolution in functionality (which I seriously doubt). It's UGLY as hell as far as I'm concerned. I hated the Metro look the first time I saw it on a mobile phone (which is why I switched to an iPhone after years of using WinCE/PocketPC/Windows Mobile.) It never occurred to me that they would infect the desktop with that same ugly crap. Sorry ... that's just the way I feel about it. I've TRIED to like it but the whole thing just reeks of pure UGLY. Yuck. My existing systems are going to develop some serious longevity. Something went seriously wrong in Redmond, IMHO.

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                    • T Tomz_KV

                      Since the ribbon was introduced, I felt that the office beccame harder to use. At least, more user training was required.

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                      Member 4608898
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                      Since the ribbon was introduced and the screens are becoming wider (more pixels horizontally) and shorter (less pixels vertically) I actually see less of the document/spreadsheet than I used to. I've been using 20xx for over a year and it still takes ages to find stuff.

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        The killer new features, from the article in the Daily News: -- "the File tab" Like, wasn't that a menu? -- " the new Design tab is where all the document-theming controls live now" Like, shouldn't that also go back to being a menu/toolbar? -- "Some other little features, though, are just right. I especially liked the way Word remembers your last position in a Word document when you reopen a file" So you mean that that little shift+F5 gem hasn't been available since at least Word 5 (when I started using it)? -- "A revised navigation pane makes it easier to jump through a document via predefined markers like outline levels." So the document map hasn't really been available since at least Word 2 (again, when I started using it)? I'm beginning to see the MSO 2007-2010 strategy: "Hide everything you possibly can from everyone, and make everything but the basics hard to get to, so that we can re-introduce it all later, as if it were new!"

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        kishore Gaddam
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                        Liked the look and feel of the New Office 2013. You can see the glimpse of the Office 2013 Word at http://kishore1021.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/quick-glimpse-of-ms-office-2013/[^]

                        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; Professionals built the Titanic.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          The killer new features, from the article in the Daily News: -- "the File tab" Like, wasn't that a menu? -- " the new Design tab is where all the document-theming controls live now" Like, shouldn't that also go back to being a menu/toolbar? -- "Some other little features, though, are just right. I especially liked the way Word remembers your last position in a Word document when you reopen a file" So you mean that that little shift+F5 gem hasn't been available since at least Word 5 (when I started using it)? -- "A revised navigation pane makes it easier to jump through a document via predefined markers like outline levels." So the document map hasn't really been available since at least Word 2 (again, when I started using it)? I'm beginning to see the MSO 2007-2010 strategy: "Hide everything you possibly can from everyone, and make everything but the basics hard to get to, so that we can re-introduce it all later, as if it were new!"

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          RafagaX
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                          I like Office 2013 so far, but i midly dislike the default white theme, i think i need to set the brightness of my monitor down. :-D

                          CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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