So I was just reading about...
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Why not wait for a Win 8 phone?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Check out Exchange Online. It's what I use (just set it up the other day). Some nice things:
- You can use it with your domain.
- You have unlimited proxy addresses for no extra cost (e.g., email1@domain1.com, email2@domain2.com, and so on).
- 25GB+ storage.
- Integration with other features (calendar, Lync, etc).
I don't think there is any sort of social media integration though, if that's something that interests you.
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Why not wait for a Win 8 phone?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Because I'll be paying for the most expensive phone with the most options that might even fly me to the moon while all I want is to make a phone call, send a text message and check my email... I'm not very much interested in apps (save for one or two). I call about five minutes a month (if I call at all), send 10 to 20 text messages, check a couple of emails and that's about it. I'm interested in Windows Phone only because I would like to do some mobile development (for the fun of it). Another reason is that my current phone contract ends in three months, probably before Windows 8 will be on the market. Besides, Windows 8 didn't look all that different from Windows 7.8.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Check out Exchange Online. It's what I use (just set it up the other day). Some nice things:
- You can use it with your domain.
- You have unlimited proxy addresses for no extra cost (e.g., email1@domain1.com, email2@domain2.com, and so on).
- 25GB+ storage.
- Integration with other features (calendar, Lync, etc).
I don't think there is any sort of social media integration though, if that's something that interests you.
Ok, so I think I might even be a bit technologically impaired. I don't have my own domain, I don't need unlimited proxy addresses (do I even need one?), in two years time I got 0,2 GB in my mailbox (making 25GB massive overkill), and I don't use calendars (I memorize the few appointments I have) or any chat clients. Perhaps I need an email client that advertises as follows. - No integration with anything whatsoever! - Only very limited storage space! - Don't count on any 'widgets' or 'gatgets', you ain't gonna need 'em! - You CAN send and receive decent emails! Actually that kind of sounds like Hotmail 10 years ago :) I DO organize my emails in folders (I hate having more than a few emails in my inbox). Now THAT's a nice feature to have.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Ok, so I think I might even be a bit technologically impaired. I don't have my own domain, I don't need unlimited proxy addresses (do I even need one?), in two years time I got 0,2 GB in my mailbox (making 25GB massive overkill), and I don't use calendars (I memorize the few appointments I have) or any chat clients. Perhaps I need an email client that advertises as follows. - No integration with anything whatsoever! - Only very limited storage space! - Don't count on any 'widgets' or 'gatgets', you ain't gonna need 'em! - You CAN send and receive decent emails! Actually that kind of sounds like Hotmail 10 years ago :) I DO organize my emails in folders (I hate having more than a few emails in my inbox). Now THAT's a nice feature to have.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}I have several professional sounding domains (but none that are particularly professional looking), so I like to have emails for them (I also sometimes require access to admin@whateverDomain.com to prove I am the owner for certain services). However, if you don't have any domains, then something like outlook.com may be for you. And Lync is a bit more than a chat client. It also allows for users to do screen sharing and even allows you to give control of your computer to another user (basically like remote desktop). It's pretty sweet and I use it at work all the time. If I did any contracting, I imagine I might use it at home often too. I don't, though, so it is essentially a useless feature for me right now. Still, it's nice to have the option. :) I actually do use my calendar on my iPhone for reminders. If I had my calendar integrated with my email so I could use it on my phone/desktop/anywhere with a web browser, I might use it more often. Hopefully the iPhone 5 will have some nice integration abilities.
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Naerling wrote:
while still being a programming enthusiast
Somebody has to make "real software" too ;)
Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS My LinkedIn Profile
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Ok, so I think I might even be a bit technologically impaired. I don't have my own domain, I don't need unlimited proxy addresses (do I even need one?), in two years time I got 0,2 GB in my mailbox (making 25GB massive overkill), and I don't use calendars (I memorize the few appointments I have) or any chat clients. Perhaps I need an email client that advertises as follows. - No integration with anything whatsoever! - Only very limited storage space! - Don't count on any 'widgets' or 'gatgets', you ain't gonna need 'em! - You CAN send and receive decent emails! Actually that kind of sounds like Hotmail 10 years ago :) I DO organize my emails in folders (I hate having more than a few emails in my inbox). Now THAT's a nice feature to have.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Interesting, looks like the iPhone can already connect to Exchange to get calendar info: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2480. Neato.
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Go for an Android, no hassles lots of apps, decently priced. Windows phone is an outcast, you will just have problems, and Apple is too much hyped.
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Ok, so I think I might even be a bit technologically impaired. I don't have my own domain, I don't need unlimited proxy addresses (do I even need one?), in two years time I got 0,2 GB in my mailbox (making 25GB massive overkill), and I don't use calendars (I memorize the few appointments I have) or any chat clients. Perhaps I need an email client that advertises as follows. - No integration with anything whatsoever! - Only very limited storage space! - Don't count on any 'widgets' or 'gatgets', you ain't gonna need 'em! - You CAN send and receive decent emails! Actually that kind of sounds like Hotmail 10 years ago :) I DO organize my emails in folders (I hate having more than a few emails in my inbox). Now THAT's a nice feature to have.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Nah, you're just too smart to be distracted by all that chrome-plated plastic and shiny cr@p.:thumbsup: Elephant having my phone littered with a billion social wanker-app buttons.:thumbsdown::thumbsdown: Android mail client ticks all the boxes above that you mentioned. Gmail client does too. Phone was $189 outright and unlocked (models were available at less than 1/2 that price) prepaid Phone + internet costs me $29 for 45 days - 2hrs worth mobile<->mobile calls + 5gb data. I'm yet to find a cheaper plan globally.
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Ok, so I think I might even be a bit technologically impaired. I don't have my own domain, I don't need unlimited proxy addresses (do I even need one?), in two years time I got 0,2 GB in my mailbox (making 25GB massive overkill), and I don't use calendars (I memorize the few appointments I have) or any chat clients. Perhaps I need an email client that advertises as follows. - No integration with anything whatsoever! - Only very limited storage space! - Don't count on any 'widgets' or 'gatgets', you ain't gonna need 'em! - You CAN send and receive decent emails! Actually that kind of sounds like Hotmail 10 years ago :) I DO organize my emails in folders (I hate having more than a few emails in my inbox). Now THAT's a nice feature to have.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}You can sign me up for that one, too.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Naerling wrote:
So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh:
Outlook is a mistery, but this is why you want a smartphone: 1. you can get connected to the Internet when you have doubts, need to find places... 2. you can use skype to reduce dramataically your communication costs. 3. you can use the phone as a full navigation system. 4. if the camera is good enough you can forget your camera at home as with the mobile you got everything there. 5. depending on the phone you can share the internet conenction to your laptop which can be very handy. 6. you can listen to the radio if you are in boring places waiting. 7. and the most important one: to be able to connect to the CP lounge! :thumbsup:
[www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.
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Since my BADa phone kind of bailed out on me after the last firmware update (and my phone plan ends in three months) I am looking for a new phone. I am pretty sure it will be a Nokia Lumia 800[^] with Windows 7.8. Since Windows probably supports other Microsoft products better than it supports other products I was thinking of getting an Outlook mail account. Then I remembered this blog[^] was posted in The Insider a few days ago. So I read it to check out why I would want/need Outlook mail. It is appearently connected to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, Skype... I have none (and they're actually integrated in the Nokia's 'People Hub' too)! I guess in today's society that could mean three things. 1. I am technologically impaired, 2. I am forever alone[^], 3. I am both. While I guess 2 is a bit true the main reason I don't have all that stuff is because I value my privacy (somewhat) and don't really feel I need to get all I do, want, know etc. into the open (it's a fourth reason that is not widely accepted by society yet). So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh: Also, am I the only software developer around who cares not for gadgets and the newest technological trends (while still being a programming enthusiast!)?
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}I use Gmail on the phone and it was extremely easy to set up and just as easy to use. (folders and all) Your Gmail contacts are also integrated into the people hub and when making a new 'contact' you even get the choice where to create it (if you have multiple accounts set up like Gmail / windows live / facebook / ...). I bought my phone a couple months ago with the same thoughts as you, but have to say I find that I use it and it's apps more and more.
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Naerling wrote:
So why do I want Outlook mail and a fancy smartphone again...? :doh:
Outlook is a mistery, but this is why you want a smartphone: 1. you can get connected to the Internet when you have doubts, need to find places... 2. you can use skype to reduce dramataically your communication costs. 3. you can use the phone as a full navigation system. 4. if the camera is good enough you can forget your camera at home as with the mobile you got everything there. 5. depending on the phone you can share the internet conenction to your laptop which can be very handy. 6. you can listen to the radio if you are in boring places waiting. 7. and the most important one: to be able to connect to the CP lounge! :thumbsup:
[www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.
Joan Murt wrote:
7. and the most important one: to be able to connect to the CP lounge!
I actually miss that on my current phone! It says cookies aren't enabled while they are... :~ You do make some valid points...
It's an OO world.
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public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Because I'll be paying for the most expensive phone with the most options that might even fly me to the moon while all I want is to make a phone call, send a text message and check my email... I'm not very much interested in apps (save for one or two). I call about five minutes a month (if I call at all), send 10 to 20 text messages, check a couple of emails and that's about it. I'm interested in Windows Phone only because I would like to do some mobile development (for the fun of it). Another reason is that my current phone contract ends in three months, probably before Windows 8 will be on the market. Besides, Windows 8 didn't look all that different from Windows 7.8.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Actually, the Windows phones out there now don't have 7.8 and won't until Windows Phone 8 comes out. Also, under the hood, WP8 is quite a bit different, as I understand it, even though the UI is the same. I love my Windows Phone (Samsung Focus S running WP7.5) and my wife recently got a Nokia Lumia 900 (also running WP7.5). Her Nokia is a beautiful phone, well suited for WP7. Note that current WP devices won't be upgradeable to WP8 -- they'll get a few WP8 features with the WP7.8 update when it's available. If you're looking to do mobile development and want to be current, your best bet is probably to wait. If you want the longest window for phone updates and features, your best bet is also probably to wait. :) Just because your contract is up doesn't mean you *have* to upgrade right away.
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Go for an Android, no hassles lots of apps, decently priced. Windows phone is an outcast, you will just have problems, and Apple is too much hyped.
ktm TechMan wrote:
Windows phone is an outcast, you will just have problems
And what problems would those be? I mean, other than the problems associated with any software. I'm a happy WP user and have been since it was released. It's done nothing but improve, and quickly. As to being an "outcast", perhaps it is and perhaps it just hasn't had the time to gain traction in the market. Among the (admittedly small) community of WP users, the satisfaction level is extremely high according to all the numbers I've heard. As to "lots of apps", there are over 100,000 apps in the WP store, so the platform is doing pretty well in that regard as well.
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ktm TechMan wrote:
Windows phone is an outcast, you will just have problems
And what problems would those be? I mean, other than the problems associated with any software. I'm a happy WP user and have been since it was released. It's done nothing but improve, and quickly. As to being an "outcast", perhaps it is and perhaps it just hasn't had the time to gain traction in the market. Among the (admittedly small) community of WP users, the satisfaction level is extremely high according to all the numbers I've heard. As to "lots of apps", there are over 100,000 apps in the WP store, so the platform is doing pretty well in that regard as well.
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Actually, the Windows phones out there now don't have 7.8 and won't until Windows Phone 8 comes out. Also, under the hood, WP8 is quite a bit different, as I understand it, even though the UI is the same. I love my Windows Phone (Samsung Focus S running WP7.5) and my wife recently got a Nokia Lumia 900 (also running WP7.5). Her Nokia is a beautiful phone, well suited for WP7. Note that current WP devices won't be upgradeable to WP8 -- they'll get a few WP8 features with the WP7.8 update when it's available. If you're looking to do mobile development and want to be current, your best bet is probably to wait. If you want the longest window for phone updates and features, your best bet is also probably to wait. :) Just because your contract is up doesn't mean you *have* to upgrade right away.
Marc A. Brown wrote:
If you're looking to do mobile development and want to be current
I'm just looking for a bit of fun and something else to do for a change :) For everything I do with my mobile phone the money for the newest phone just isn't worth it. Besides, 7.x is stable, you'll only have to wait and see if 8 is too ;) If mobile development really turns out to be my thing I could always buy the newest phone on the market. It will cost me an additional fee, but I'm willing to risk it :)
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
} -
I use Gmail on the phone and it was extremely easy to set up and just as easy to use. (folders and all) Your Gmail contacts are also integrated into the people hub and when making a new 'contact' you even get the choice where to create it (if you have multiple accounts set up like Gmail / windows live / facebook / ...). I bought my phone a couple months ago with the same thoughts as you, but have to say I find that I use it and it's apps more and more.
That's good news! I guess I'll stick with GMail a little longer then :) I can only hope I'll be as enthusiastic about my new phone, its features and apps as you. At least I got a good feeling about it now.
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}