Newest Surface for Windows RT Rumor
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Karl Sanford wrote:
If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
Despite the fact that it will run a crippled Office and no standard Windows apps? For my money, I'd want the real thing...
I've never come close to using the full power of Office other than to say 'look what I can do'. So I'm totally fine with a crippled version of Office. Give me spell check, formatting, and excel equations, and I'm happy. As for not running standard windows apps, I'm ok with that too. The only real 'standard' program I use that doesn't have a replacement is visual studio; which I would probably never use on a tablet anyway. I would most like it because it will be the least common denominator in creating applications moving forward. So it seems like a good idea to have one to test on.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
For my money, I'd want the real thing...
For $199, you'd never get it ;P
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Karl Sanford wrote:
If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
Despite the fact that it will run a crippled Office and no standard Windows apps? For my money, I'd want the real thing...
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Despite the fact that it will run a crippled Office
It will probably be slightly better than the crippled Office that Android and iOS will be getting...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I've never come close to using the full power of Office other than to say 'look what I can do'. So I'm totally fine with a crippled version of Office. Give me spell check, formatting, and excel equations, and I'm happy. As for not running standard windows apps, I'm ok with that too. The only real 'standard' program I use that doesn't have a replacement is visual studio; which I would probably never use on a tablet anyway. I would most like it because it will be the least common denominator in creating applications moving forward. So it seems like a good idea to have one to test on.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
For my money, I'd want the real thing...
For $199, you'd never get it ;P
Be The Noise
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Karl Sanford wrote:
Give me spell check, formatting, and excel equations, and I'm happy.
Until you're not... Just about every time I've "gone cheap" on technology, I've ended up regretting it.
:shrug: horses for courses
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Karl Sanford wrote:
Give me spell check, formatting, and excel equations, and I'm happy.
Until you're not... Just about every time I've "gone cheap" on technology, I've ended up regretting it.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Just about every time I've "gone cheap" on technology, I've ended up regretting it.
I can vouch for the truth of this statement. ;P
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Just about every time I've "gone cheap" on technology, I've ended up regretting it.
I can vouch for the truth of this statement. ;P
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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According to an inside source, a session was held at Microsoft's recent TechReady15 conference in which all the launch details were laid out. If things go according to the plan detailed then, the Surface for Windows RT tablet will be launching October 26th -- no surprise there -- at a compelling price of $199.
Very interesting. First, a rumor that it would sell for over $1,000. Now, a rumor that it will be $199. While we know that Microsoft takes loses on console sales of Xbox, do you think they will employ the same strategy with Surface for Windows RT? Maybe this will be in conjunction with a data plan to subsidize the price? If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
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I believe $200 is the production cost ( probably if MS builds around 10 million upfront, otherwise it would be higher ), now MS could just blow off $2B like that for market share (they still have deep pockets) but I suspect they will yank the price by $50 or there about so shareholders don't complain and evict Balmer! :)
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According to an inside source, a session was held at Microsoft's recent TechReady15 conference in which all the launch details were laid out. If things go according to the plan detailed then, the Surface for Windows RT tablet will be launching October 26th -- no surprise there -- at a compelling price of $199.
Very interesting. First, a rumor that it would sell for over $1,000. Now, a rumor that it will be $199. While we know that Microsoft takes loses on console sales of Xbox, do you think they will employ the same strategy with Surface for Windows RT? Maybe this will be in conjunction with a data plan to subsidize the price? If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
Be The Noise
Vapor, smoke, haze, dust, rumor, fog. I don't believe it will sell to the public for US $199, unless bundled with some kind of purchase of a Win8 phone with a two-year contract. If it did sell for US $199: then I have a nice (but, how nice ?) tablet with no drivers for most current printers, and other common peripherals ? And, what do I use for editing text-only documents. What apps will be available for such common tasks as: "viewing a folder full of photos, one-at-a-time ... at different 'zoom-levels' " How can I watch a movie on a DVD on it, or listen to an mp3/ogg/flac file on it ? Can I view a .pdf file ? Can I open an RTF document in some app (the limited version of Word) ? Will I have a calculator ? I do believe selling the ARM Surface to MSDN subscribers for very low-cost, or including them free with new MSDN subs, for developers, makes sense in terms of encouraging app development. All this pre-launch hoop-la, this erupting volcano of rumors from industry flacks (many of them bought and paid for by Ms's, or Apple's, propaganda machines) that have to write something every day: leaves me absolutely bored. best, Bill (way past use-by-date, seen-too-much)
"Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." Niels Bohr
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According to an inside source, a session was held at Microsoft's recent TechReady15 conference in which all the launch details were laid out. If things go according to the plan detailed then, the Surface for Windows RT tablet will be launching October 26th -- no surprise there -- at a compelling price of $199.
Very interesting. First, a rumor that it would sell for over $1,000. Now, a rumor that it will be $199. While we know that Microsoft takes loses on console sales of Xbox, do you think they will employ the same strategy with Surface for Windows RT? Maybe this will be in conjunction with a data plan to subsidize the price? If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
Be The Noise
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Vapor, smoke, haze, dust, rumor, fog. I don't believe it will sell to the public for US $199, unless bundled with some kind of purchase of a Win8 phone with a two-year contract. If it did sell for US $199: then I have a nice (but, how nice ?) tablet with no drivers for most current printers, and other common peripherals ? And, what do I use for editing text-only documents. What apps will be available for such common tasks as: "viewing a folder full of photos, one-at-a-time ... at different 'zoom-levels' " How can I watch a movie on a DVD on it, or listen to an mp3/ogg/flac file on it ? Can I view a .pdf file ? Can I open an RTF document in some app (the limited version of Word) ? Will I have a calculator ? I do believe selling the ARM Surface to MSDN subscribers for very low-cost, or including them free with new MSDN subs, for developers, makes sense in terms of encouraging app development. All this pre-launch hoop-la, this erupting volcano of rumors from industry flacks (many of them bought and paid for by Ms's, or Apple's, propaganda machines) that have to write something every day: leaves me absolutely bored. best, Bill (way past use-by-date, seen-too-much)
"Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." Niels Bohr
BillWoodruff wrote:
And, what do I use for editing text-only documents. What apps will be available for such common tasks as: "viewing a folder full of photos, one-at-a-time ... at different 'zoom-levels' " How can I watch a movie on a DVD on it, or listen to an mp3/ogg/flac file on it ? Can I view a .pdf file ? Can I open an RTF document in some app (the limited version of Word) ? Will I have a calculator ?
Text-Only Editor - Not Sure, but probably included, if not one will show up in the store in no time. Viewing Photos - "Photos" app View a DVD - There's no DVD drive, but there is a "Videos" app Listen to Music - "Music" app View a PDF - there is a PDF viewer, I may have had to download it from the storeP RTF Documents - Not Sure, but probably included, if not one will show up in the store in no time. Calculator - Not Sure, but probably included, if not one will show up in the store in no time. You're point on the drivers is a good one. If that haven't got that sorted, the arm tablet is going to have the same effect on users that Vista had.
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Vapor, smoke, haze, dust, rumor, fog. I don't believe it will sell to the public for US $199, unless bundled with some kind of purchase of a Win8 phone with a two-year contract. If it did sell for US $199: then I have a nice (but, how nice ?) tablet with no drivers for most current printers, and other common peripherals ? And, what do I use for editing text-only documents. What apps will be available for such common tasks as: "viewing a folder full of photos, one-at-a-time ... at different 'zoom-levels' " How can I watch a movie on a DVD on it, or listen to an mp3/ogg/flac file on it ? Can I view a .pdf file ? Can I open an RTF document in some app (the limited version of Word) ? Will I have a calculator ? I do believe selling the ARM Surface to MSDN subscribers for very low-cost, or including them free with new MSDN subs, for developers, makes sense in terms of encouraging app development. All this pre-launch hoop-la, this erupting volcano of rumors from industry flacks (many of them bought and paid for by Ms's, or Apple's, propaganda machines) that have to write something every day: leaves me absolutely bored. best, Bill (way past use-by-date, seen-too-much)
"Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." Niels Bohr
BillWoodruff wrote:
I have a nice (but, how nice ?) tablet with no drivers for most current printers, and other common peripherals ?
I believe the included drivers on Windows (the default/generic ones) will support most of the current common hardware (probably not specialized one), that include printers, keyboards and mouses, so i don't expect big bumps on this.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
I have a nice (but, how nice ?) tablet with no drivers for most current printers, and other common peripherals ?
I believe the included drivers on Windows (the default/generic ones) will support most of the current common hardware (probably not specialized one), that include printers, keyboards and mouses, so i don't expect big bumps on this.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
MS has made the "Intel" editions work with Windows 7 drivers. So they have definitely put more effort into drivers than ever before. Airprint (or whatever the Windows equiv is) printers all function driverless now so I'm not terribly worried. You can even install some kind of driver console on an actual computer to turn a network or USB printer into a airprint compatible printer as well. Keyboard and mouse drivers have operated "driverless" for years and years now. I'm not really sure there is any hardware you would want to use with a highly portable tablet that actually requires much in the form of drivers anymore.
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According to an inside source, a session was held at Microsoft's recent TechReady15 conference in which all the launch details were laid out. If things go according to the plan detailed then, the Surface for Windows RT tablet will be launching October 26th -- no surprise there -- at a compelling price of $199.
Very interesting. First, a rumor that it would sell for over $1,000. Now, a rumor that it will be $199. While we know that Microsoft takes loses on console sales of Xbox, do you think they will employ the same strategy with Surface for Windows RT? Maybe this will be in conjunction with a data plan to subsidize the price? If the true price is even relatively close to this, it would definitely eliminate any qualms I might have had about buying an ARM version.
Be The Noise
Folks, almost nobody wants to pay the costs + margin for mobile smart hardware (phone or tablet) anymore, the exception being the iPad fanatics. It all must be subsidized somehow. Either with the mobile carrier (phones) or with the app store, or with both. It's much easier to pull $500 out of someone's pocket $1 at a time over a couple of years than to do it all at once. The days of paying several hundred up front for technology that is obsolete in a couple of years is gone by. Microsoft has figured that out, and it's most likely why they're looking at a $199 price point for the Surface tablet. They'll sell like hotcakes. And they'll hope to make it up with all those wonderful $0.99 apps out there that millions of customers will pay for.