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Does reduced fat really prolong our lives?

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  • S Slacker007

    or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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    Fat is good for you. The problem is sugar, which gets added even more to 'lo-fat' food to improve the taste.

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      Fat is good for you. The problem is sugar, which gets added even more to 'lo-fat' food to improve the taste.

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      ZurdoDev
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      Quote:

      Fat is good for you.

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      • S Slacker007

        or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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        It depends. You can't be truly healthy unless you're also fit - and you won't be that unless your diet is balanced (which means appropriate levels of fat, sugar, carbs, protein etc.), and you exercise appropriately. 10 years or so back, I weighed about the same as I do now - but I'm now far fitter (I took up road/off-road running) and it shows whenever I'm doing anything that involves exertion. Back then, I'd struggle to run around the block - now I'm quite happy to run 4-5 miles every day. Statistically, that should mean I have a better chance of living longer, but of course you can never tell what will happen re lifespan on a person by person basis. Alone I'm not statistically significant, but across an entire population it certainly holds.

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          It depends. You can't be truly healthy unless you're also fit - and you won't be that unless your diet is balanced (which means appropriate levels of fat, sugar, carbs, protein etc.), and you exercise appropriately. 10 years or so back, I weighed about the same as I do now - but I'm now far fitter (I took up road/off-road running) and it shows whenever I'm doing anything that involves exertion. Back then, I'd struggle to run around the block - now I'm quite happy to run 4-5 miles every day. Statistically, that should mean I have a better chance of living longer, but of course you can never tell what will happen re lifespan on a person by person basis. Alone I'm not statistically significant, but across an entire population it certainly holds.

          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

          (I took up road/off-road running)

          Couldn't that be called 'running'?

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

            (I took up road/off-road running)

            Couldn't that be called 'running'?

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            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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            I was trying to exclude the treadmill variety. :doh:

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            • S Slacker007

              or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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              Maximilien
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              A diet "lower" in calories is better for you. nothing wrong eating fat, but it is just the quantity that makes it bad you us.

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              • S Slacker007

                or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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                peterchen
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                The latest statistical verdicts I can recall are: Being overweight doesn't affect your life expectancy tangibly, only chronic obesity does. It does, however affect life quality in the later years (mobility, independence, activities, need for medication etc.) OTOH, _under_nourishment slows down metabolic rate -> cell division -> genmoe deterioration, so it's your best bet at living longer. not necessarily better, though.

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                • S Slacker007

                  or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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                  loctrice
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                  Fat isn't bad for you. As other people have pointed out so far, being fit and having a balanced diet is the key. I've been pretty blunt at explaining it to people lately. Mainly because they are trying to argue that "you don't need to do 'x' to lose weight" or "I can do that doing 'x'". I read an article that says the average life expectancy is 75 (outdated I know, but that's not the point). The average expectancy of an athlete is not significantly different (when averaged) from normal people. So, you can die at 75 after not being able to wipe your own a&* and/or not knowing the people around you, or you can die at 75 in your sleep and never know it's coming. It's about quality, if nothing else. Besides, having been fat (and out of shape) not long ago I can tell you that quality of life is most surely better if you are fit.

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                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                    I was trying to exclude the treadmill variety. :doh:

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                    loctrice
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                    I run outside a lot, but I actually prefer a treadmill.

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                    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                      It depends. You can't be truly healthy unless you're also fit - and you won't be that unless your diet is balanced (which means appropriate levels of fat, sugar, carbs, protein etc.), and you exercise appropriately. 10 years or so back, I weighed about the same as I do now - but I'm now far fitter (I took up road/off-road running) and it shows whenever I'm doing anything that involves exertion. Back then, I'd struggle to run around the block - now I'm quite happy to run 4-5 miles every day. Statistically, that should mean I have a better chance of living longer, but of course you can never tell what will happen re lifespan on a person by person basis. Alone I'm not statistically significant, but across an entire population it certainly holds.

                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                      daniilzol
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                      Basically what she said. Fat is not harmful by itself, the body literally needs fat to survive. From what I read diet that's 1/3rd calories from fat, 1/3rd calories from carbs, and 1/3rd of calories from protein with plenty of fiber is about as good as one can get. Of course people who are really really serious about bodybuilding and are either bulking or cutting can play with percentages a little bit, but I personally I think that's going a little bit overboard and I question if that actually helps. Anyway, the point is that fat is good for you as long as you eat it in moderation and as long as you adhere to the diet above and do plenty of physical exercise you will be as healthy as you can be.

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                      • L loctrice

                        I run outside a lot, but I actually prefer a treadmill.

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                        Andy Brummer
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                        Given your hobby, I would have figured you'd go more for the hill sprints. I had to do tons of explosive, high intensity work to handle 5 minute sparring rounds.

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                        • S Slacker007

                          or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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                          Andy Brummer
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                          Reduced body fat prolongs your life, but eating fat doesn't cause you to get fat.

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                            Given your hobby, I would have figured you'd go more for the hill sprints. I had to do tons of explosive, high intensity work to handle 5 minute sparring rounds.

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                            loctrice
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                            I do :D I run a lot of distance when I train on my own. I do lots of HIT when I train at the gym. I usually get 15 - 30 miles in on a weekend, but through the week I only run 3-5 miles in the morning, depending on how much single leg strength and foot work stuff I do. I still find time for the distance running though :D

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                            • L loctrice

                              I run outside a lot, but I actually prefer a treadmill.

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              Treadmills don't tend to do hills very well. I also like to be able to vary my pace without pressing buttons.

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                                Fat is good for you. The problem is sugar, which gets added even more to 'lo-fat' food to improve the taste.

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                                jim lahey
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                                Very good point. Sugar/refined carbohydrate and hydrogenated fats are the problem. Even saturated fat isn't bad for you. The body has a maximum limit to the amount of non-hydrogenated fat that can be absorbed, the rest gets excreted.

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                                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                  Treadmills don't tend to do hills very well. I also like to be able to vary my pace without pressing buttons.

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                                  loctrice
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                                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                  Treadmills don't tend to do hills very well.

                                  The incline feature works great, though not all of them have it.

                                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                  I also like to be able to vary my pace without pressing buttons

                                  I can agree with that. Pre-workout settings will vary your speed for you, but they are pre-set.

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                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                    Treadmills don't tend to do hills very well.

                                    The incline feature works great, though not all of them have it.

                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                    I also like to be able to vary my pace without pressing buttons

                                    I can agree with that. Pre-workout settings will vary your speed for you, but they are pre-set.

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    I'm a big fan of trail running. There's just something about running under the trees that you just can't get on a treadmill. One of my favourite bits is those fast, steep descents where you have to bounce all the way down to avoid going flying. You definitely can't do that on a treadmill - they can't replicate the uneven surfaces or the tree branches lying in ambush!

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                                      I'm a big fan of trail running. There's just something about running under the trees that you just can't get on a treadmill. One of my favourite bits is those fast, steep descents where you have to bounce all the way down to avoid going flying. You definitely can't do that on a treadmill - they can't replicate the uneven surfaces or the tree branches lying in ambush!

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                                      loctrice
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                                      Trail running is one thing I want to do more of. However, you can't get me to a trail in time to work out before work. There just isn't time for it.

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                                      • L loctrice

                                        Trail running is one thing I want to do more of. However, you can't get me to a trail in time to work out before work. There just isn't time for it.

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        We're a bit lucky there - we live a few minutes walk from the nearest park, and as we work for ourselves, we can choose what time of the day we run.

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                                        • S Slacker007

                                          or does it just make us think we are a little healthier when we eat something with no flavor?

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Contrary to what Yogi Berra said -- fat tastes good. As has been said: moderation. And while we're on the subject of healthy(er) eating -- sugar may be bad, but the substitutes are worse.

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                                          when we eat something with no flavor

                                          Yeah, I don't do that.

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