Eid Mubārak
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So you're pushing for a national asshole day, then? /edit/ I meant "not pushing"
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I believe that I should not have to take time off work at prescribed dates due to Bronze Age Levantine Peasants, Crypto-Communist Upstarts or Mediaeval Fascists. I should take the days off when I want them off. OK, I would take xmas off cos there is good telly and my mum would be upset if I didn't turn up for a feed, but other than that I would like the freedom to go on holiday at any time and not have to pay a surcharge for taking the child with me cos it was that time of the year they nailed a hippy to a tree. On the other hand I know a lot of people do believe in the pixies and that is why we get so many of these days, but are they really necessary? I want Midsummer's Day to be a holiday, and Trafalgar Day, what of May 4th... If we stood firm and demanded new inclusive holidays in exchange for the divisive religious ones we would all be happy! (Except the French, they would not like Trafalgar Day).
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I should take the days off when I want them off.
You should move to a island or a perhaps another planet where you are the sole inhabitant. For the rest of humanity which are stuck dealing with other people a great deal of time regulating holidays provides a number of benefits. For example insuring that the majority of employers give at least some time off. Or perhaps you were unaware that there are many people who get no paid time off at all?
Dalek Dave wrote:
but other than that I would like the freedom to go on holiday at any time and not have to pay a surcharge for taking the child with me cos it was that time of the year they nailed a hippy to a tree.
Not sure what you mean specifically but if you are referring to higher travel prices at holidays the reason for that is based only on economic principles - similar to the ones that provide you with a paycheck.
Dalek Dave wrote:
but are they really necessary?
Doctors aren't really "necessary" since most people especially young ones often remain healthy for a long time. But oddly enough many people, not just those that need a doctor, like having them around. Holidays are similar.
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A loss of less than 2% of the working-days.. I would be surprised if that had actual consequences. An unusually big flu epidemic would kill more days. Looking at a nice table of average working hours per week by country actually gives me the impression that working less is good for the economy, strange as it may sound.
harold aptroot wrote:
A loss of less than 2% of the working-days.. I would be surprised if that had actual consequences.
I don't know where you live but where I live adding an official holiday costs real measurable money because the government workers get it off. Far as I can recall the last two proposed holidays where I live were refused specifically because of that.
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harold aptroot wrote:
A loss of less than 2% of the working-days.. I would be surprised if that had actual consequences.
I don't know where you live but where I live adding an official holiday costs real measurable money because the government workers get it off. Far as I can recall the last two proposed holidays where I live were refused specifically because of that.
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In the US they are.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einsteinahmed zahmed wrote:
In the US they are.
As a group employers are NOT required to close on any holiday nor at any time excluding something like an emergency. And even for the latter I believe some employers are exempt. And as far as I can tell banks, if that is what you are referring to, are not required to close either. They probably do so by convention and for business reasons.
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No, I am an Atheist who is fed up having to Kow Tow to the requirements of people who do not share my world view. A prejudiced pig is someone who expects me to take time off because of some religious observance that they have been brainwashed and abused as a child into believing, regardless of the sensibilities of others.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
No, I am an Atheist who is fed up having to Kow Tow to the requirements of people who do not share my world view.
I live in the US and of the normal holidays only one is considered religious and far as I can tell only by those that want to consider it religious. And if you are a developer I am sure that your employer would be more than happy to accomodate your need to protest a religious holiday by allowing you to work - gratis. That would meet your need for protest as well as meet the needs of the rest of the employees who like to be able to spend time with other people who have many different employers yet who all normally allow for the same days off as well.
Dalek Dave wrote:
regardless of the sensibilities of others.
A sensible employer would, of course, not allow employees any time off at all. Especially since almost universally they ignore any real data about productivity there is certainly no incentive for them to pay attention to the data associated with time off. So they are left to do nothing but adhere to convention, their own subjective view and perhaps even some conscious thought about remaining competitive with others who do allow time off.
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Being Gay or, as you so finely put it, a Nigger, is a genetic condition, of which you have no control. Religion is a choice, you are not born into any religion, you are abused and conditioned by parents and associated wizards into believing that crap. Just because you were born in Ireland, doesn't make you a Catholic, being born in Israel doesn't make you a Jew and being born in Pakistan doesn't make you a Muslim.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Religion is a choice, you are not born into any religion, you are abused and conditioned by parents and associated wizards into believing that crap.
As well as using a toilet, washing ones hands and not beating up those that annoy us. But I am rather fond of practicing that myself as well as appreciating when others do it.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
In the US they are.
As a group employers are NOT required to close on any holiday nor at any time excluding something like an emergency. And even for the latter I believe some employers are exempt. And as far as I can tell banks, if that is what you are referring to, are not required to close either. They probably do so by convention and for business reasons.
Hmm, yeah, I think you're right.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Dalek Dave wrote:
No, I am an Atheist who is fed up having to Kow Tow to the requirements of people who do not share my world view.
I live in the US and of the normal holidays only one is considered religious and far as I can tell only by those that want to consider it religious. And if you are a developer I am sure that your employer would be more than happy to accomodate your need to protest a religious holiday by allowing you to work - gratis. That would meet your need for protest as well as meet the needs of the rest of the employees who like to be able to spend time with other people who have many different employers yet who all normally allow for the same days off as well.
Dalek Dave wrote:
regardless of the sensibilities of others.
A sensible employer would, of course, not allow employees any time off at all. Especially since almost universally they ignore any real data about productivity there is certainly no incentive for them to pay attention to the data associated with time off. So they are left to do nothing but adhere to convention, their own subjective view and perhaps even some conscious thought about remaining competitive with others who do allow time off.
jschell wrote:
I live in the US and of the normal holidays only one is considered religious and far as I can tell only by those that want to consider it religious.
Here in the UK a majority of our public holidays are associated with Christian festival days. Christmas and Boxing Day, and Good Friday and Easter Monday, exist to pad out those festival days into meaningful length holidays. And Whitsun (or, actually, the Monday after it) is also a public holiday.
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Since when do government workers generate money when they're working? :) Anyway, jokes aside.. how long were those proposed holidays?
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harold aptroot wrote:
how long were those proposed holidays?
Both proposals were based on adding a new holiday to the existing list of holidays.