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  • T Tim Groven

    After living in San Antonio for several years (9), you got kind of used to the sad fact that people are murdered everyday. Sometimes for their shoes for crying out loud!

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    Caydence wrote:

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    Wow... another CP member in SA. I thought that there was only 2 of us.

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      Aunty[^]:

      Several people have been shot near the Empire State Building in New York City, the authorities have said. Local news media are reporting that the gunshots were heard before 09:00 (13:00 GMT). The Associated Press news agency said the shooter was dead.

      The Torygraph have it as 3, I've seen 4-6 mentioned on Twatter[^].


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      Maximilien
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      Nation Celebrates Full Week Without Deadly Mass Shooting UPDATE: Never Mind[^] :rolleyes:

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      • B BobJanova

        In terms of random civilian shooting: no, just the US.

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        Karl Sanford
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        Nope, while we are up there, we're not the worst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate[^]

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Gun possession in New York City is highly restricted. Just goes to reinforce the notion that prohibition doesn't work.

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          so enforce it better, anytime a disgruntaled ex employee can just turn up and shoot someone then sorry but you have a problem, unless the reports are wrong this was just a peed off counter jocky not a member of the local mafia yet they seem to have easy access to a gun, not a problem with restriction being too high but too low or badly enforced

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Aunty[^]:

            Several people have been shot near the Empire State Building in New York City, the authorities have said. Local news media are reporting that the gunshots were heard before 09:00 (13:00 GMT). The Associated Press news agency said the shooter was dead.

            The Torygraph have it as 3, I've seen 4-6 mentioned on Twatter[^].


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            ednrg
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            It's the coddled kids becoming adults in age only. They don't know how to act when any adversity comes around, so they overreact and grab a gun because someone disrespected them. A real man brushes himself off, learns from his experience, and moves on with his life. Vince Lombardi said it best: "It's not whether you get knocked down, it's whether you get up."

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            • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

              so enforce it better, anytime a disgruntaled ex employee can just turn up and shoot someone then sorry but you have a problem, unless the reports are wrong this was just a peed off counter jocky not a member of the local mafia yet they seem to have easy access to a gun, not a problem with restriction being too high but too low or badly enforced

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              jim lahey
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              Totally right. New York and Chicago have shootings and tighter gun control than the rest of the US. This doesn't automatically mean that gun control doesn't work - anybody from outside with access to firearms can tool up and drive right in.

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Aunty[^]:

                Several people have been shot near the Empire State Building in New York City, the authorities have said. Local news media are reporting that the gunshots were heard before 09:00 (13:00 GMT). The Associated Press news agency said the shooter was dead.

                The Torygraph have it as 3, I've seen 4-6 mentioned on Twatter[^].


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Ian Shlasko
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                For the record, it wasn't me :) I'm about ten blocks away, safely out of range.

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  This is New York City. Forgetaboutit :)

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  I think you mean "fuhgettaboutit". /ravi

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                  • B BobJanova

                    In terms of random civilian shooting: no, just the US.

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                    puromtec1
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                    Crime is prevented by law abiding citizens brandishing/using guns FAR more than they are used to perpetuate crimes. Especially where concealed carry is allowed by law.

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      I think you mean "fuhgettaboutit". /ravi

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      fuhgettaboutit :-D

                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Aunty[^]:

                        Several people have been shot near the Empire State Building in New York City, the authorities have said. Local news media are reporting that the gunshots were heard before 09:00 (13:00 GMT). The Associated Press news agency said the shooter was dead.

                        The Torygraph have it as 3, I've seen 4-6 mentioned on Twatter[^].


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        realJSOP
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                        Three U.S. marines were shot in Mexico today, and the gunfire came from what was described as a Mexican Federal Police vehicle.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                          But remember its not the fact they have guns are that is only civilised, if they didnt have guns then he would have used a big stick

                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                          I read an article today that claimed a woman killed someone with a pot of coffee. Great. Now we're going to have to get background checks to buy a coffee pot, and ammo for it will be even more expensive. Of course, the liberals will push for pots to only be capable of holding two cups of coffee (we don't want any high-capacity pots being available to criminals, and they won't want anyone carrying around a loaded pot of coffee.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          • L Lost User

                            Caydence wrote:

                            San Antonio

                            Wow... another CP member in SA. I thought that there was only 2 of us.

                            Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012

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                            Tim Groven
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                            Not anymore. Lived there from 4th grade to graduation, then joined the Air Force. I am out of the Air Force now and currently live in Ohio. :)

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                            • L Lost User

                              America is not the whole world...and the answer to your question is YES america has gone freaking crazy ! This happens far too often in this country . It freaks me out too !

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                              UBX wrote:

                              America is not the whole world

                              But it's the best part of the world.

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                              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                so enforce it better, anytime a disgruntaled ex employee can just turn up and shoot someone then sorry but you have a problem, unless the reports are wrong this was just a peed off counter jocky not a member of the local mafia yet they seem to have easy access to a gun, not a problem with restriction being too high but too low or badly enforced

                                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                wizardzz
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                                The shooting took place in the street, not the office. The gun was purchased in Florida in 1991. Should everyone who ever purchased a gun be submitted to searches? Realistically, he bought the gun 21 years ago. What policy could prevent this, keeping in mind plenty of people have guns bought 20+ years ago. If anyone is interested in what I think the discussion should be about, it is what to do when people are mentally ill but function in society and/or what to do when people make direct threats of violence. He made a threat of violence to the man he killed in April of 2011. It is now coming out that the Batman shooter made threats of violence to his college and was subsequently barred from campus. My point? Instead of blanket laws and bans on "scary" guns, perhaps threats should be taken more serious. Perhaps people aware of threats that do nothing should be held liable, criminally. Perhaps the FBI background check that gun purchases go through should include mental health records, restraining order, and all possible threats of violence. Nobody in the government likes to discuss these ugly details, but everyone in the government likes to discuss disarming.

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  I read an article today that claimed a woman killed someone with a pot of coffee. Great. Now we're going to have to get background checks to buy a coffee pot, and ammo for it will be even more expensive. Of course, the liberals will push for pots to only be capable of holding two cups of coffee (we don't want any high-capacity pots being available to criminals, and they won't want anyone carrying around a loaded pot of coffee.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                  If coffee pots were killing as many people as guns are in the US do you think for a second there wouldn't be action to prevent them being used? and as there isn't the knee jerk reaction of "oh no not my guns" coffee pots would soon be illegal. Ever time there is one of these instances someone allways says "if they didnt have guns they would use xxxx" do you actually believe it? if it was difficult to obtain guns ie banned, then yes some will still get them but a much restrictive subset, yes there will be other deaths with other weapons but nothing like the levels that such easy access to guns provide, stop justify the unjustifiable, if you want guns then accept that they are going to kill. however dont condem those who wish for a country where a disagrement with an ex employee can lead to death, in most countries with sensible guin laws this usually leads to a few bruises

                                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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