60 Gritters
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And there we have it. The highways agency has 60 gritters for the UK. Roughtly one gritter per million people. PATHETIC .............. No wonder the country grinds to a halt when we have two inches of snow. And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 got the smile wiped off their faces wen I went to the supermarket and they were snowed in and couldnt get out. :):):):)
Hell I thought it was funny .....
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And there we have it. The highways agency has 60 gritters for the UK. Roughtly one gritter per million people. PATHETIC .............. No wonder the country grinds to a halt when we have two inches of snow. And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 got the smile wiped off their faces wen I went to the supermarket and they were snowed in and couldnt get out. :):):):)
Hell I thought it was funny .....
How did the shop staff get there? ;) Glad someone else thinks it's pathetic! :mad: Cheers, Barry
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And there we have it. The highways agency has 60 gritters for the UK. Roughtly one gritter per million people. PATHETIC .............. No wonder the country grinds to a halt when we have two inches of snow. And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 got the smile wiped off their faces wen I went to the supermarket and they were snowed in and couldnt get out. :):):):)
Hell I thought it was funny .....
Bangerman wrote: And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 Anyone who says a RAV 4 is not a real 4X4 does not know what they are talking about. In sand and snow conditions they say it is one of the best 4X4s around what with it's low weight. Bangerman wrote: 60 gritters At first I thought you typed Critters, not Gritters. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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And there we have it. The highways agency has 60 gritters for the UK. Roughtly one gritter per million people. PATHETIC .............. No wonder the country grinds to a halt when we have two inches of snow. And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 got the smile wiped off their faces wen I went to the supermarket and they were snowed in and couldnt get out. :):):):)
Hell I thought it was funny .....
Oh come on! If the UK went out and bought several hundered gritters and snow removal machines you'd be bleating about what a waste of taxpayers money it was, given the infrequency with which snow visits much of the country.
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Bangerman wrote: And all those people who laughed at my RAV4 and said that it wasnt a real 4x4 Anyone who says a RAV 4 is not a real 4X4 does not know what they are talking about. In sand and snow conditions they say it is one of the best 4X4s around what with it's low weight. Bangerman wrote: 60 gritters At first I thought you typed Critters, not Gritters. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Methinks thou shoudest see a real 4 wheeler :). Of course they probably would not sell very well in Europe because of gas mileage but my heighboor has a rig with positive traction on demand 4 wheel drive that determines if power is applied to the wheel or not - he can have 1-2-3-4 wheels powered at any time. This is not the limited slip traction thing of older years but something fairly new. His rig also has 4 wheel steering at low speeds. And this is in Texas where they close he State if it snows. But we do have some rough territory to traverse once one gets off-road. Cost - about 40,000.00 . To much for my blood for a truck. Richard I must have liberty Withal, as large a charter as the wind, To blow on whom I please. As You Like It. Act ii. Sc. 7. William Shakespeare
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Methinks thou shoudest see a real 4 wheeler :). Of course they probably would not sell very well in Europe because of gas mileage but my heighboor has a rig with positive traction on demand 4 wheel drive that determines if power is applied to the wheel or not - he can have 1-2-3-4 wheels powered at any time. This is not the limited slip traction thing of older years but something fairly new. His rig also has 4 wheel steering at low speeds. And this is in Texas where they close he State if it snows. But we do have some rough territory to traverse once one gets off-road. Cost - about 40,000.00 . To much for my blood for a truck. Richard I must have liberty Withal, as large a charter as the wind, To blow on whom I please. As You Like It. Act ii. Sc. 7. William Shakespeare
Richard Stringer wrote: Methinks thou shoudest see a real 4 wheeler Dude, I live in Africa. We have real 4 wheelers here, companies come here to test. The RAV 4 has actually proved to be a big surprise, doing very well in sand especially. Obviously it is not going to beat a Land Rover (best 4x4xFar) but then it was not ever meant to be that. The only US 4x4 that has any respect here is the Jeep Cherokee. Land Rover is still king of the hill though. Richard Stringer wrote: he can have 1-2-3-4 wheels powered at any time. This is not the limited slip traction thing of older years but something fairly new. Traction control. Any new decent 4x4 has it now and even a lot of non 4x4s are coming out with it. BMW 5 and top end 3 series, Audi All Road, Mitsubishi EVO etc. Hell, Formula 1 Grand Prix cars have it. They check the traction of each wheel and supply the power to the ones with the best traction, amazing stuff. Richard Stringer wrote: His rig also has 4 wheel steering at low speeds. LOL, that is one serious off-roader your friend has there. Must be very specialised though, not much fun on the open highway :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Richard Stringer wrote: Methinks thou shoudest see a real 4 wheeler Dude, I live in Africa. We have real 4 wheelers here, companies come here to test. The RAV 4 has actually proved to be a big surprise, doing very well in sand especially. Obviously it is not going to beat a Land Rover (best 4x4xFar) but then it was not ever meant to be that. The only US 4x4 that has any respect here is the Jeep Cherokee. Land Rover is still king of the hill though. Richard Stringer wrote: he can have 1-2-3-4 wheels powered at any time. This is not the limited slip traction thing of older years but something fairly new. Traction control. Any new decent 4x4 has it now and even a lot of non 4x4s are coming out with it. BMW 5 and top end 3 series, Audi All Road, Mitsubishi EVO etc. Hell, Formula 1 Grand Prix cars have it. They check the traction of each wheel and supply the power to the ones with the best traction, amazing stuff. Richard Stringer wrote: His rig also has 4 wheel steering at low speeds. LOL, that is one serious off-roader your friend has there. Must be very specialised though, not much fun on the open highway :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: Dude, I live in Africa. We have real 4 wheelers here, companies come here to test. Most of the american companies test in South Texas or Baja Calif. Primarily in Baja where the Baja 500 is ran but some at the test facility in Texas ( they also test a lot of race cars and motorcycles there also ). Paul Watson wrote: Obviously it is not going to beat a Land Rover (best 4x4xFar) Debatable. As far as simplicity and endurance and repairability in the field the original Land Rover is hard to beat. However technically I would suggest that the Hummer is the best and The H2 a close second. If I had a choice I would like one of the Korean War versions of the old Jeep , either Willis or Ford as they have better ground clearance and a spring suspension thats pretty hard tp damage but the cost of those things are going thru the nrooh. Paul Watson wrote: The only US 4x4 that has any respect here is the Jeep Cherokee Having owned both a Cherokee and a Grand Cherokee I think that that invalidates all of your arguments. They are simply not suited for off rad useage without substanial mods that render them useless as everyday transportation. Try a Laredo - much better. Paul Watson wrote: Traction control. Any new decent 4x4 has it now and even a lot of non 4x4s are coming out with it. BMW 5 and top end 3 series, Audi All Road, Mitsubishi EVO etc. Hell, Formula 1 Grand Prix cars have it. They check the traction of each wheel and supply the power to the ones with the best traction, amazing stuff. Not traction control. In have tractioin control onh my Taurus. Traction control is completly different - and a lot simplier. This system determines the most efficient way to drive the vehicle based on weight, angle of turn, and about 15 or so other inputs . Its all computer controlled.For example it may quit driving the outsider rear wheel in a sharp turn - stuff like that. It can even shift the tranny . The system cuts off when speeds hit 25 MPH. Paul Watson wrote: LOL, that is one serious off-roader your friend has there. Must be very specialised though, not much fun on the open highway Actually it is quite nice on the road - he claims :). He does belong to a offroad riders organization that has competition events for trucks, modified off roaders, and bikes. I went to one in Oklahoma with him back in 2000 when there were only 7 vehicl