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  • R Richard Stringer

    I wonder how many people under the age of 55 could do it. I went to school in the pre-calculator age ( early 60's ) and was quite proud of my slide rule. First calculator I bought was in 65-66 ( not sure ) but it was a big old honking TI job with a big 15 character red matrix display that had, if I remember , only add, subtract , multiply, and devide, and 1 memory element. Had a leather case and a belt clip and ate batteries up.And I think it was pretty expensive also. At least I learned how to look up log tables etc.. the hard way but it is not a task that I would pass on. I now have a Sharp Scientific EL-509 that I have had for 16 years and it is still ticking. I carry it everywhere. Richard I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Albert Einstein

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    Chris Losinger
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    yeah, my Sharp El-515S is probably 15 years old, too. i love it. my wife has one of those huge HPs, but i can't stand the clicky buttons. -c


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    • K Kant

      At last the cell phones made strides into the class rooms. oops..;P University of Maryland Students Admit to Using Cell Phones to Cheat on Exam [^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Don't :beer: and Drive.

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      Michael Dunn
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      Heh, I was in high school when affordable programmable/graphing calculators with big LCD displays were introduced. I had a Casio and later an HP (the poor thing died of neglect a few months ago, the batteries leaked :(( ). Those let you store text messages along with programs, so guess where I put my cheat notes. ;) We were allowed to have calculators, but the teacher was not tech-savvy and didn't understand the potential for the calcs to be used in cheating. I had the HP in college, and I actually used it to check my work in calc classes. When I finished a big ol' problem involving a bunch of integrals, I'd put the equation into the calc, let it churn for a couple of minutes, then check its answer against mine. --Mike-- Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm

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      • C Chris Austin

        I wonder how people with this menatlity would handle a Calc or Physics class where calculators or electronic stuff are explicitly dis-allowed. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin

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        Chris Austin wrote: I wonder how people with this menatlity would handle a Calc or Physics class where calculators or electronic stuff are explicitly dis-allowed The only time I ever used a calculator at Uni was in physics labs where we had to process actual, real (yuk!) data readings. Everything else in quantum mechanics, general relativity, set theory, topology etc was all theory (mainly involving horrendous surface integrals - but at least I no longer wake up screaming). cheers, Chris Maunder

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          At last the cell phones made strides into the class rooms. oops..;P University of Maryland Students Admit to Using Cell Phones to Cheat on Exam [^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Don't :beer: and Drive.

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          Marc Clifton
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          One of my clients makes custom hardware solutions for adult dance clubs (I do the software... ah. sooffftttware). So, you know those new cellphones with cameras in them? Need I say more? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
          Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
          Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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            yeah, my Sharp El-515S is probably 15 years old, too. i love it. my wife has one of those huge HPs, but i can't stand the clicky buttons. -c


            A | B - it's not a choice.

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            Roger Wright
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            Chris Losinger wrote: my wife has one of those huge HPs, but i can't stand the clicky buttons. I still love my clicky buttons! My HP-67 (with the motor-driven card reader) died of a lack of available supplies. It survived through my trauma of relinquishing my trusty slide rule, carrying it everywhere on my belt, and being run over by my Opel twice. The future Business majors in my Engineering classes had TIs - they flew into a few hundred separate small pieces upon being dropped from a desktop to the floor. Now I carry a slim HP-15C in my pocket, and haul out the high powered HP-48G for the really difficult problems... Thank the gods they still have clicky buttons (and use RPN)!:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
            Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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              Chris Losinger wrote: my wife has one of those huge HPs, but i can't stand the clicky buttons. I still love my clicky buttons! My HP-67 (with the motor-driven card reader) died of a lack of available supplies. It survived through my trauma of relinquishing my trusty slide rule, carrying it everywhere on my belt, and being run over by my Opel twice. The future Business majors in my Engineering classes had TIs - they flew into a few hundred separate small pieces upon being dropped from a desktop to the floor. Now I carry a slim HP-15C in my pocket, and haul out the high powered HP-48G for the really difficult problems... Thank the gods they still have clicky buttons (and use RPN)!:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
              Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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              RPN Rules!!! :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net

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                One of my clients makes custom hardware solutions for adult dance clubs (I do the software... ah. sooffftttware). So, you know those new cellphones with cameras in them? Need I say more? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka

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                :omg::laugh: They should have waited to put the answers on after the testing was over, dummies. Later,
                JoeSox

                Load my Sig here.....

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Chris Austin wrote: I wonder how people with this menatlity would handle a Calc or Physics class where calculators or electronic stuff are explicitly dis-allowed The only time I ever used a calculator at Uni was in physics labs where we had to process actual, real (yuk!) data readings. Everything else in quantum mechanics, general relativity, set theory, topology etc was all theory (mainly involving horrendous surface integrals - but at least I no longer wake up screaming). cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Chris Maunder wrote: mainly involving horrendous surface integrals That's what I'm gonna be going through for the next few years... X| Anyways, in the university where I'm studying, for most exams, laptops and other such devices are allowed (with whatever software you want). However, network cards must be removed (many classrooms are equipped with wireless network access to the internet) and IR ports covered with opaque tape :)

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                    Chris Maunder wrote: mainly involving horrendous surface integrals That's what I'm gonna be going through for the next few years... X| Anyways, in the university where I'm studying, for most exams, laptops and other such devices are allowed (with whatever software you want). However, network cards must be removed (many classrooms are equipped with wireless network access to the internet) and IR ports covered with opaque tape :)

                    Cheers,
                    Marc

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                    Marc Richarme wrote: for most exams, laptops and other such devices are allowed (with whatever software you want). I remember my maths lecturers happily telling us that we could bring in whatever we wanted to the exams but that it wouldn't help us. Talk about demoralising! I also has a lecturer who would routinely insert unsolved questions into exams. He always defended this practice by saying that how we tackled problems was more important than the solution, and besides: maybe one day someone would actually solve one of them. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Chris Austin wrote: I wonder how people with this menatlity would handle a Calc or Physics class where calculators or electronic stuff are explicitly dis-allowed. I wouldn't have passed Calculas 1 and 2 :) I asked my teacher when I was in college if I was allowed to bring my laptop. She said "Fine". I told her my calculator-like program was MathCad and she said that was a good program, and I was allowed to use it during exams, quizes, and finals. She said as long as I showed the work I was fine?!?!?!?! I guess she didn't know, being my calculus teacher, that MathCad actually shows the work for you... go figure! To say the least I aced the class, but I can't find the area under a curve any longer :) I should've done the work. Code4Food ---- "There is no try; only do or do not" -Yoda

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                      Code4Food wrote: To say the least I aced the class, but I can't find the area under a curve any longer I still remember this, however I am just finishing college this year; not sure if that makes me biased or not. It's called the Reimann Sum, http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/wrightj/MA64/Unit4/NumIntRightReim.pdf[^] Move mouse below to see the equation:


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                        Code4Food wrote: To say the least I aced the class, but I can't find the area under a curve any longer I still remember this, however I am just finishing college this year; not sure if that makes me biased or not. It's called the Reimann Sum, http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/wrightj/MA64/Unit4/NumIntRightReim.pdf[^] Move mouse below to see the equation:


                        Nick Parker

                        The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything. - Theodore Roosevelt

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                        Nick Parker wrote: I still remember this dude, forget it now! don't waste brain cells. I mean that's what's CP's for isn't it? :rolleyes: I deal with that stuff every day, and AFAIK there's no equation for an airplane ;P - Nitron


                        "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                          Nick Parker wrote: I still remember this dude, forget it now! don't waste brain cells. I mean that's what's CP's for isn't it? :rolleyes: I deal with that stuff every day, and AFAIK there's no equation for an airplane ;P - Nitron


                          "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                          Nitron wrote: dude, forget it now! don't waste brain cells. I mean that's what's CP's for isn't it? If I only had more control over those little things I seem to remember for no reason. ;) In all reality, its a pretty interesting (and rather simple) method for find the area.


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                            Marc Richarme wrote: for most exams, laptops and other such devices are allowed (with whatever software you want). I remember my maths lecturers happily telling us that we could bring in whatever we wanted to the exams but that it wouldn't help us. Talk about demoralising! I also has a lecturer who would routinely insert unsolved questions into exams. He always defended this practice by saying that how we tackled problems was more important than the solution, and besides: maybe one day someone would actually solve one of them. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Chris Maunder wrote: a lecturer who would routinely insert unsolved questions into exams. That sounds perfectly reasonable. A part of learning is knowing when to stop beating your head against a wall and move on. My Control Systems teacher gave us problems from his day job that he hadn't been able to solve. Exams were open book, and we were welcome to work together on the final. He, too, said it wouldn't help - not a comforting thought. I wouldn't care to think too long on just how many parts of the US Phalanx gun system were really designed by Cal Poly undergrads...:omg: Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                            Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                            • N Nick Parker

                              Nitron wrote: dude, forget it now! don't waste brain cells. I mean that's what's CP's for isn't it? If I only had more control over those little things I seem to remember for no reason. ;) In all reality, its a pretty interesting (and rather simple) method for find the area.


                              Nick Parker

                              The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything. - Theodore Roosevelt

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                              Nick Parker wrote: In all reality, its a pretty interesting (and rather simple) method for find the area. true, especially when you start dealing with mass quantities of numerical data! (what the world really runs on ;P ) - Nitron


                              "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                                Code4Food wrote: To say the least I aced the class, but I can't find the area under a curve any longer I still remember this, however I am just finishing college this year; not sure if that makes me biased or not. It's called the Reimann Sum, http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/wrightj/MA64/Unit4/NumIntRightReim.pdf[^] Move mouse below to see the equation:


                                Nick Parker

                                The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything. - Theodore Roosevelt

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                                Code4Food
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                                Thanks it brings back memories :) Well not really since I can't really remember it LOL Code4Food ---- "There is no try; only do or do not" -Yoda

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                                  Nick Parker wrote: I still remember this dude, forget it now! don't waste brain cells. I mean that's what's CP's for isn't it? :rolleyes: I deal with that stuff every day, and AFAIK there's no equation for an airplane ;P - Nitron


                                  "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                                  Nitron wrote: and AFAIK there's no equation for an airplane Yes there is, it's called Bernoulli's Equation ;) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                                    Nitron wrote: and AFAIK there's no equation for an airplane Yes there is, it's called Bernoulli's Equation ;) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                                    Gary Kirkham wrote: Yes there is, it's called Bernoulli's Equation Only up to about Mach 0.30. From then on, air is compressable. Bernoulli is only applicable to incompressable flow, like H2O or hydraulic fluid and air at slow speed, like in an HVAC system. ;P - Nitron


                                    "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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