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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    I still wear a pocket protector if that tells you anything.

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    Clifford Nelson
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    So what do you put in the pocket protector. I almost never use a pen myself. If I need a pen I am almost sure not be be able to find one.

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    • B BobJanova

      No. I'm up to date on .Net 4.0 and Java 1.6 (we're using 1.7 now but I don't know what new features, if any, that includes). And ASP.net MVC. Anything in the last couple of years I have missed out on – for now, until I'm put onto a project that uses them.

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      Clifford Nelson
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      You are not up to date. the new verion of .NET is 4.5.

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      • R RugbyLeague

        I'm not. I don't even use MVVM for WPF projects :~

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        So do you know what MVVM is. I use MVVM all the time but do not understand MVC.

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        • H Haakon S

          VC6.0? Serious?

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          Clifford Nelson
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          Actually I understand VS 6 is still strong since VB.NET has a fairly steep learning curve. If you do VBA you effectively do VB 6, and some things are still better done in VBA since can put code right in the document/spreadsheet/Access Database.

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          • S Slacker007

            I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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            VallarasuS
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            Started with java and Java Script years ago and gave it up. Jump started into C Sharp and ASP.Net and slowly into Windows Forms and WPF, and Now, just began with FSharp and Scala... So I do

            Regards Vallarasu S | FSharpMe.blogspot.com

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            • C Clifford Nelson

              So do you know what MVVM is. I use MVVM all the time but do not understand MVC.

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              RugbyLeague
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              I think I have a reasonable enough understanding of what MVVM is, I have just never seen the need for it in my own realm.

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              • S Slacker007

                I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                carlospc1970
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                I would ask first: is it worth it? :confused:

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  I was on the bleeding edge of Microsoft, but we have given that up as a mugs game given the speed at which Microsoft shifts direction now.

                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                  VLAZ55
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                  I agree. MS changes direction so far that by the tinme you have gotten proficient in a programming language, MS and others have shifted focus and have created a new HOT language. Why can't we add the required functionality to the existing languages instead of creating a new flavor of the month?

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    I was on the bleeding edge of Microsoft, but we have given that up as a mugs game given the speed at which Microsoft shifts direction now.

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                    bgaldames
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                    I am bleeding edge from the web perspective Building SPA with EF, SignalR, Knockout.js, who needs MVC controllers when you got Web API (which btw are .Net versions of J2EE Servlets) Also, from Visual Studio point of view I created my own template and project creation automation tied in with SVN, IIS, and TeamCity. Having too much fun! Essentially you check in a project as your "Template" Click a button.. creates a new project using the latest from the "Template" project Checks that new project in Creates the IIS Entry on the respective "Stage" or "Production" environment Creates the TeamCity build configuration which allows for auto-deploy to "Stage" environment or a push to "Production" button Wrap this with a CMS, lots of fun! :P

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                    • S Slacker007

                      I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                      James VT
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                      I feel exactly as you do. Since having kids, the few precious hours in the evening are devoted to them--homework, outdoor play, etc. I wouldn't trade it for anything, but there's no time left for trying new technologies. When my wife got me an iPad for Father's Day 3 years ago, it stoked my desire to learn Objective-C and I spent the next 3 months developing an app. From a programming standpoint it was the most fun I've had in a long time; reading the Apple docs in every free moment, writing code until midnight after the kids were asleep, actually relishing a sick day at home with a cold so I could bang out code for the app. However, my family life really suffered. The kids started noticing how I would jump on the computer while playing Hot Wheels with them and would lose the gist of the game, my wife said it made her feel lonely falling asleep with nobody beside her. It made me consider jumping ship from my secure-but-routine job to a web startup, but those tend to require long work hours. I'm trying to incorporate cutting-edge stuff on small projects here at work but it's hard to carve out the time in between required tasks. Not sure what the answer is. Sometime I think maybe I just had my time on the edge and it's someone else's turn (I had my fun at a dot-com in the whirlwind 90's so I can't complain). Sorry for the long-winded response but this struck a nerve for me because I feel the same way.

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                      • S Slacker007

                        I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                        sasadler
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                        Heh, not even close. I'm pretty much a pure firmware developer, hip deep in RTOSes, USB, interrupts and DSP algorithms. Fun stuff for me, but hasn't really changed much in years.

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                        • C Clifford Nelson

                          You are not up to date. the new verion of .NET is 4.5.

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                          RafagaX
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                          Small minor versions are not worth the hassle, are they? :)

                          CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                          • S Slacker007

                            I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                            Matt McGuire
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                            nope. about the same as you; around 3 years. I tend to value staiblility more than cutting edge. I'm just about to relase my first .NET 3.5 project (but still winform based), I'm not even going to look at winRT for a few more years, until it gets some actual user base with win8. Because of this, it looks like I can skip WPF altogether, :laugh:

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                            • S Slacker007

                              I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                              RafagaX
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                              I'm not, i've fallen off the edge a long time ago... :laugh: Seriously, i consider i'm almost at the edge of software development, because i'm developing for Windows 8 Modern UI, C# and XAML,, i'm not at the edge, because to be there, i must be doing it on Javascript and HTML5, but being in the edge is risky as you may, well, fall off. :-D

                              CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                              • R RafagaX

                                Small minor versions are not worth the hassle, are they? :)

                                CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                Clifford Nelson
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                                Of course if you are on the cutting edge... Unfortunately I am not on 4.5 either, and still working to understand some older technology. :-D

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                                • R RugbyLeague

                                  I think I have a reasonable enough understanding of what MVVM is, I have just never seen the need for it in my own realm.

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                                  Clifford Nelson
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                                  I am a big fan of MVVM. Amazing how much cleaner it makes my code from what I had when working with WinForms, and forget basic ASP.NET

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                                    I am a big fan of MVVM. Amazing how much cleaner it makes my code from what I had when working with WinForms, and forget basic ASP.NET

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                                    RugbyLeague
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                                    It clearly works because many people enthuse about it. I am just not that fussed about getting into a tizzy because I have code in the code behind file.

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      I was on the bleeding edge of Microsoft, but we have given that up as a mugs game given the speed at which Microsoft shifts direction now.

                                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                      ClockMeister
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                                      No, not anymore. The stuff I develop is for the Windows desktop. C# under VS2008 with SQL Server 2008 R2 and Active Reports is going to be about it for me. The product I've built will run on any Windows desktop from XP up. That's enough audience for me. My equipment is all up-to-date so I'll probably stick with what I have for a long time now. I'm tired of changing toolboxes.

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                                      • S Slacker007

                                        I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        I feel the same thing. In order to keep myself up to date, I'd need to sacrifice time at home and with family which I'd rather user for my own entertainment. I take the "get a life" quote very seriously :)

                                        To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                        • S Slacker007

                                          I'm not. My family and work, contribute to me not being able to fully immerse myself into today's cutting edge software, designs, and practices. I just don't have the time. If I made the time, then my family and work would suffer; something would have to give. My work and my skill set, is about 3 years behind today's technology in regards to what I stated above. I envy my fellow members here, that have the time, at work and at home, to be one with the force. I love reading the articles here that members such as them provide. I have currently started to sacrifice sleep, so that I can get back on track. My question...are you on the cutting edge of technology?

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                                          SeattleC
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                                          The software industry is like a bucketfull of broken glass. There's so many cutting edges that the only way to be on them all is to bleed. You can be a cutting edge web-front-end guy, but what do you know about embedded? What do you know about graphics? What about big data? Every day you make a bet on the future of technology, whether you know it or not. You spend time becomming more proficient with a given toolset. You're betting that this toolset won't become obsolete. Bet on a Microsoft toolset and you know you'll have to relearn frequently, but the tools are widely deployed so there's lots of work. Bet on a Linux toolset, and your employment options are more limited (for now), but the rate of change is far slower. A story: I made a conscious technology bet on C++ (on Windows) in 1995. I've spent lots of effort keeping my C++ skills cutting edge. Around 2005, this began to look like a bad bet. Java was everywhere, and if it wasn't java, it was C#. "Everybody" said C++ was a dead language. I was in a quandry. C# or Java, C# (and windows) or Java (and linux)? It was so hard to see the future that I didn't go either way. So, along comes 2008, and all of a sudden all the people who built web sites and tools and operating systems in C# and Java are having scaling and performance issues because it isn't fast enough, and you start hearing that the really hardcore companies are going with C++. Turns out that "everybody" was PR flacks from Microsoft beating the C# drum, and new grads who only knew Java. C++ wasn't trendy, but it delivered the mail. If there's a moral to this story, it's this; find a tool or a couple of tools that are widely deployed, and work to achieve mastery of those tools. Keep your eyes open for new tools that look productive, but don't worry about being trendy or cutting-edge. And give up trying to predict the future. Change when you need to. Pursue mastery the rest of the time.

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