Slammin' the Apple announcment sticky

[Pete OHanlon]

Chris, I watched the blog cast wanting to like the new iPhone. As many have detected in my tone recently, I'm well and truly sick of Microsoft so I was looking for a change from my current Windows phone. The problems I had with the presentation are: 1. It was so boring. Gone was Jobs passion. In is Cook delivering things like an accountant - it was all figures. Where was the "must have" feature? 2. I'm not bothered by the UI. All I want is a phone that lets me make calls, do some texting, has a decent calendar that can sync with my Outlook and surf the web, so the cries of iOS 6 being no different to iOS 5 doesn't bother me. 3. The thing I do want is a decent battery. My current phone isn't great. The iPhone isn't any better (in any incarnation) 3. I don't really care whether it's lighter or not. It's a phone, not a car, so I think I csn just about lift it. For these reasons, I'm probably going to get the new Razr.

*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

[dan sh]

I think this[^] is the phone for you. :)

"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

[Pete OHanlon]

Damn shame it's not available in the UK.

*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

[dan sh]

You might want to ask one of your Indian friends to bring it for you(if you got any). BTW, electronics in general are cheaper in India for some reason.

"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

[Pete OHanlon]

Cheeky bugger. I'm sure you and I have talked about my mate Pri before. Actually, that's something I wanted to ask - Pri has had his hair cut so calling him Pri doesn't make much sense any more. Any suggestions for a good nickname now that we can't name him after actresses?

*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

[dan sh]

The actress in question too went for short hair for an upcoming movie. Will that work for you?

"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

[Lost User]

Chris Maunder wrote:

So I'm just curious: Do people hate Apple for being Apple?

No, it was an advertisement for a specific launch of a specific commercial product.

Chris Maunder wrote:

I'd just like to know what, specifically, people dislike about an announcement regarding an Apple launch, but also what, specifically, you guys would be interested in hearing regarding Apple. And Google. And Samsung. And RIM.

..and Apple, and Google, and Samsung? We got the Insider for "news", post it there (if it's not spam). I'm interested in programming, not in companies. I dislike announcements without body that merely flow on hype - had you mentioned that the phone was launched after the fact, I'd have ignored it. I'll butt out for the rest of the topic, as it'll be hard to convince you that it was not approriate material.

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

[Pete OHanlon]

Nah, need something else. The closest I can come to describing Pramod's hairstyle is young Imran Khan, and we can't call him that for obvious reasons - he is a mate after all.

*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

[Nagy Vilmos]

For me, Apple are worse than Microsoft. Firstly their [right spilling today] OS API is so closed, it would be easier to write something to access GCHQ. Secondly and most importantly, they want to win the technology war in the court room and not the lab. There is the third reason, the Fanboyz, but you can't blame a company for being popular with sock cookers; it's not like they encourage the 'better than thou' characters. Once Apple et al get off their high horses and stop their stupid patents I'll be a little bit more supportive, until then they can go suck the puss from a million septic sores but I won't buy any of their products.

---

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

[BobJanova]

I 1-voted it for the clear favouritism. Samsung, Nokia, HTC and other smartphone manufacturers don't get a sticky for their launch announcements. I get enough fanboy rubbish from the mainstream media, but on CP I expect fairness in technical matters because you know what you're talking about. A smartphone launch is interesting enough to make the Insider News or to have threads about in here. But giving a sticky thread to one manufacturer (not even the largest one; Samsung has them beat on that front) is undue bias. And to fulfil your curiosity: what I hate about Apple is the lockdown (e.g. you can only publish apps through their own store, you aren't allowed to compete with their own apps like the browser or iTunes), the price they charge compared to comparable tech from other manufacturers, and the way they charge you for the privilege of developing for them. Ed: oh yes, and the patent trollery, which is outrageous abuse of position considering that they didn't invent any of the stuff they're going after Samsung et al for in the first place!

[Slacker007]

Sorry, Chris. I gave you a 1-vote because everyone else gave you a 1-vote. ...and yes, I would jump off a cliff if everyone else was doing it too. :)

[S Houghtelin]

Apple is the Justin Bieber of Tech. OK product that is over hyped, has a religious following and over priced. That said I do have several Apple products at home and I work with Apple products at my job. The 1 votes I do are the spam posts, your's was not spam, it may have smelled a little like spam.

It was broke, so I fixed it.

[Mycroft Holmes]

I univoted on general principal being an old fart who was subject to the early MS/Apple rivalry. I am amazed how that rivalry has propagated down the decades. Presumably it was started by a marketing department way back, I wonder if that team lead sits back in awe and says "I started that".

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

[Maximilien]

I think it is because it is the first "phone" sticky that you've posted and it turned out to be an Apple one. And do not forget the "mob" factor of CP; it is fashionable to "hate" something just "because".

Watched code never compiles.

[Chris Maunder]

:laugh:

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

[Chris Maunder]

BobJanova wrote:

I 1-voted it for the clear favouritism

It still doesn't make sense. The only stickies I've posted in the past for product launches have been Microsoft products. By posting one for Apple I'm actively now promoting other companies, and will continue to do so. This is actually the opposite of favouritism. I guess it's just because it was Apple since I am doubting if I'd posted a Samsung link there would have been the 1 votes. I accuse you, sir, of the bias ;)

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

[Chris Maunder]

You mean commerical or consumer? Visual Studio is a commercial product.

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

[Chris Maunder]

Yep - the launch was a little lame. A live band with 3 songs to end? Weird. I have an aging 3GS so I'll be grabbing a new one, and weight is important for me since it's also my iPod when I ride. 4hours with a phone in your jersey pocket and every gram starts to get annoying. And I'm hoping the LTE radio emissions will keep my back nice and warm. Mmmmm...toasty... There's actually an Intel announcement that I am hoping to get more information on that will make much of the iPhone / Windows Phone / Android mess a little easier and far more interesting to devs. While Apple's event was a fizzer I'm depressed about the state of all the major carriers. Microsoft's marketing is as it is always. A mess. RIM...well, RIM. What can you say. And Samsung, while they have the polish and pizzazz, are not really innovating, more just doing what others have done, shinier and bigger. (The Galaxy's seem way to big for me).

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

[Chris Maunder]

No, I'm not protesting too much :) I'm procrastinating because I have too much to do but this is more interesting. I find it absolutely fascinating that if you took the reasons given and replace Apple with Microsoft, the arguments would no longer be valid (or, at least, not something that would then be presented as a reason) No, not paid.

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

[Lost User]

I univote all of your posts. It isn't Apple, it's you. :-D