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  • C Christian Graus

    The subject matter is disgusting, and the inference that anyone would be interested in it is deeply disturbing. So I can see why you'd be upset. But your first sentence was a statement of fact about the email you received, and your second was 'it's unbelievable'. That word can be taken two ways, and while I'd think that most people would get your meaning, it's ambiguous enough that on first scan, someone who has no idea who you are would be, IMO, forgiven for making the wrong assumption. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
    C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
    It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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    Christian Graus wrote: ...and your second was 'it's unbelievable'. That word can be taken two ways, and while I'd think that most people would get your meaning, it's ambiguous enough that on first scan, someone who has no idea who you are would be, IMO, forgiven for making the wrong assumption. Personally, I'd make the right assumption, as would I believe, just about anyone. In fact, you'd have to be a real pedant to believe that anyone *would* take it the wrong way. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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      I suspect someone thought 'unbelieveable' meant 'where do I get more'. It's a word that could be taken both ways, and someone who does not know Chris has made the wrong assumption. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
      C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
      It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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      I don't believe anyone subscribing to CP would be that stupid. It's more likely someone voted 1 as an indication of their opinion of the subject matter rather than the quality of the post. Now that's a more believable interpretation than the one you offered don't you think? :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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      • C Christian Graus

        Gosh, wasn't I worked up ? Obviously, if Pete Townsend looks at kiddie porn, I *DO* care, and hope he dies in prison, sharing a cell with a big man named Bubba who has kids. I was obviously too upset to be lucid. The site that was spammed to me was not kiddie porn, it was old guys with young girls, claiming to be father and daugher. That is sick enough, but at least all concerned were consenting adults, although it is still disgusting, and likely to lead to some scumbag raping his kid. I hope they all die horribly. Some technological means to stop anonymous email would be welcome IMO. But censorship is not, because where does it end ? Your values ? Mine ? The Popes ? George Bushes ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
        C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
        It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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        Christian Graus wrote: Some technological means to stop anonymous email would be welcome IMO. Another way would be to have a setting in your email client that either stops all html content messages, from people you don't knw maybe (more complicated filter that!) or maybe a switch to display html content as text and not act upon it. It should be fairly obvious what sort of site you were displaying by the urls... Debbie

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          Christian Graus wrote: ...and your second was 'it's unbelievable'. That word can be taken two ways, and while I'd think that most people would get your meaning, it's ambiguous enough that on first scan, someone who has no idea who you are would be, IMO, forgiven for making the wrong assumption. Personally, I'd make the right assumption, as would I believe, just about anyone. In fact, you'd have to be a real pedant to believe that anyone *would* take it the wrong way. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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          phykell wrote: In fact, you'd have to be a real pedant to believe that anyone *would* take it the wrong way. And yet it appears that someone did. I reckon whoever it was realised afterwards, but it's just not clear enough that someone already worked up on the issue couldn't, for a moment, take it the wrong way. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
          C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
          It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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            I don't believe anyone subscribing to CP would be that stupid. It's more likely someone voted 1 as an indication of their opinion of the subject matter rather than the quality of the post. Now that's a more believable interpretation than the one you offered don't you think? :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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            phykell wrote: I don't believe anyone subscribing to CP would be that stupid. Then you've not been paying attention. There are over 211,000 people. You want to vouch for ALL of them ? phykell wrote: It's more likely someone voted 1 as an indication of their opinion of the subject matter rather than the quality of the post. Then why did they not vote down MY post ? phykell wrote: Now that's a more believable interpretation than the one you offered don't you think? Not even remotely. I can't believe I'm still discussing this..... I presume the post above yours, which says 'people are unbelievable' is an indication that someone got how that word can be taken a number of ways. If you don't get that, then you'll have to take my word for it, this is too stupid a thing to argue about, and I'm having a bad enough night as it is. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
            C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
            It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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            • C Chris Losinger

              i got one yesterday that had the subject "You need kiddie porn!". the body of the message had a large picture of a naked girl standing there with all of her stuff on-display. she didn't look older than 13. it's unbelievable. -c

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              I hope you reported that? It's not worth checking out yourself first (in more ways that one), just send it on over to your local FBI office or whatever system you guys have in place for investigating these sorts of things. :~

              David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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              • B Brad Jennings

                I know what you mean, everybody in my house gets some kind of weird, disgusting porn spam everyday. The sickest one that I've gotten is women doing it with farm animals. Why would anybody want to look at that crap. I worry about all the elementary school children that have email addresses and what they might be getting in their inbox. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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                Brad Jennings wrote: The sickest one that I've gotten is women doing it with farm animals Yeah, the poor animals! I once came across* a site dedicated to women having penatrative sex with male horses. now how the hell they managed to take what looked like fourteen inches plus in them I really don't know, but I hope it was some trick photography for their future childrearing ability's sake. Talk about fucking the life out of someone! :eek: * sorry I couldn't resist writing that. ;P Brad Jennings wrote: I worry about all the elementary school children that have email addresses and what they might be getting in their inbox. Well judging from the type of stuff that got discussed in the playground at my primary school, animal sex is the least of your worries.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  phykell wrote: I don't believe anyone subscribing to CP would be that stupid. Then you've not been paying attention. There are over 211,000 people. You want to vouch for ALL of them ? phykell wrote: It's more likely someone voted 1 as an indication of their opinion of the subject matter rather than the quality of the post. Then why did they not vote down MY post ? phykell wrote: Now that's a more believable interpretation than the one you offered don't you think? Not even remotely. I can't believe I'm still discussing this..... I presume the post above yours, which says 'people are unbelievable' is an indication that someone got how that word can be taken a number of ways. If you don't get that, then you'll have to take my word for it, this is too stupid a thing to argue about, and I'm having a bad enough night as it is. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                  C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                  It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                  Christian Graus wrote: Then you've not been paying attention. There are over 211,000 people. You want to vouch for ALL of them ? You got me there ;) Christian Graus wrote: Then why did they not vote down MY post ? Because you'd explained it by then or they weren't interested, or both! Christian Graus wrote:Not even remotely. I completely disagree and I suspect many people would. Christian Graus wrote:I can't believe I'm still discussing this..... I presume the post above yours, which says 'people are unbelievable' is an indication that someone got how that word can be taken a number of ways. If you don't get that, then you'll have to take my word for it, this is too stupid a thing to argue about, and I'm having a bad enough night as it is. I don't get it, I don't believe even a tiny majority would misinterpret the meaning of Chris' original post as the context of the post is, wait for it, "Spamming Scum" as titled by none other but yourself. Anyway, regardless, if you're having a bad night, let's not discuss this any further and hope things get better for you! I certainly don't want to add to your misery. :) And incidentally, in answer to your original post, yes I think it's disgusting. I'm sick to death of stuff appearing in my mailbox and what's worrying is that this sort of thing is what gives the "authorities" the justification to take a big stick to all of us Internet users, the majority of whom, actually object strongly to the sort of cr@p we get in our inbox. Just typical that the majority will suffer for the immoral behaviour of the minority :mad: The only way round it I guess, is to change mail providers when the level of spam gets too much. Personally, I use two accounts, one for only family and friends and the other I use for message boards, form filling, etc. The latter, I only access from a web mail facility so I can easily delete the spam before I have to read text or see images I don't want to. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    I am so sick of spam, and this morning I got one that started busily loading a HUGE image when I clicked on it, and contained the text 'my dads c**k was so big, I could feel it at the end of my pu**y'. Who the HELL wants to read that ? I feel sick ( and now you do too, sorry about that ) just thinking about it, and wondering what sort of sicko has their day made by having this stuff invade their inbox. I am all for freedom of speech, I abhor the idea that the Internet become a censored world. Why should it ? I don't care what Pete Townsend likes to look at, I just don't go there and it does not affect me. But it seems to me that this invasion of my personal space is what WILL result in attempts to censor/control the web. My kids will have email addresses one day. I don't want to tell them about every last perversion on the earth before then, so they don't learn about it when they check their mail. ( In effect, I suspect I'll run a filter and they will recieve mails only from known sources, the rest I will scan first ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                    C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                    It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                    I know the feeling. I've had a few like that and it's sickening. :mad: I run iHateSpam under OutlookExpress which helps, but even it doesn't normally spot them. :confused: I swear if I ever come across one of the perpetrators of these messages I'll castrate him (assuming it's a guy) without anaesthetic in the most painful way I can think of. I might ask for a few suggestions here first... Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I am so sick of spam, and this morning I got one that started busily loading a HUGE image when I clicked on it, and contained the text 'my dads c**k was so big, I could feel it at the end of my pu**y'. Who the HELL wants to read that ? I feel sick ( and now you do too, sorry about that ) just thinking about it, and wondering what sort of sicko has their day made by having this stuff invade their inbox. I am all for freedom of speech, I abhor the idea that the Internet become a censored world. Why should it ? I don't care what Pete Townsend likes to look at, I just don't go there and it does not affect me. But it seems to me that this invasion of my personal space is what WILL result in attempts to censor/control the web. My kids will have email addresses one day. I don't want to tell them about every last perversion on the earth before then, so they don't learn about it when they check their mail. ( In effect, I suspect I'll run a filter and they will recieve mails only from known sources, the rest I will scan first ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                      C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                      It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                      A different take on SPAM: Spam Fixation[^] Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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                        Christian Graus wrote: Some technological means to stop anonymous email would be welcome IMO. Another way would be to have a setting in your email client that either stops all html content messages, from people you don't knw maybe (more complicated filter that!) or maybe a switch to display html content as text and not act upon it. It should be fairly obvious what sort of site you were displaying by the urls... Debbie

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                        Yes, whoever decided Outlook should just run everything thrown at it was obviously a moron. What is SCADA ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                        C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                        It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                          Yes, whoever decided Outlook should just run everything thrown at it was obviously a moron. What is SCADA ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                          C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                          It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                          Christian Graus wrote: What is SCADA Err, I was wondering where I'd included that in the discussion ;) You threw me there. It stands for Software Control And Data Acquisition. It's basically a server that communicates with other equipment in a water treatment plant, or steelworks, or power station or whatever, to allow control, monitoring and analysis of things like valves and temperatures and turbine speeds etc. So now you know :) We do have an Australian office, but I've never been there. Debbie

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                            Christian Graus wrote: What is SCADA Err, I was wondering where I'd included that in the discussion ;) You threw me there. It stands for Software Control And Data Acquisition. It's basically a server that communicates with other equipment in a water treatment plant, or steelworks, or power station or whatever, to allow control, monitoring and analysis of things like valves and temperatures and turbine speeds etc. So now you know :) We do have an Australian office, but I've never been there. Debbie

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                            Debs wrote: Err, I was wondering where I'd included that in the discussion I read your bio. It's just something I do. Debs wrote: It's basically a server that communicates with other equipment in a water treatment plant, or steelworks, or power station or whatever, to allow control, monitoring and analysis of things like valves and temperatures and turbine speeds etc. Sounds really interesting. So if you have a bug, really bad things happen ? Debs wrote: We do have an Australian office, but I've never been there. You should visit. Best country on the planet. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                            C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                            It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                              Debs wrote: Err, I was wondering where I'd included that in the discussion I read your bio. It's just something I do. Debs wrote: It's basically a server that communicates with other equipment in a water treatment plant, or steelworks, or power station or whatever, to allow control, monitoring and analysis of things like valves and temperatures and turbine speeds etc. Sounds really interesting. So if you have a bug, really bad things happen ? Debs wrote: We do have an Australian office, but I've never been there. You should visit. Best country on the planet. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                              C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                              It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                              Christian Graus wrote: So if you have a bug, really bad things happen ? A bug, in released code??? Nah, never happens ;) Seriously, though, all the control aspects have failovers to local RTUs (Remote Telemetry Units, like, that really helps, right!) or whatever, so, say, if the comms go dead then it can function locally in isolation or revert to a safe mode. The nitty gritty control logic and management is all handled by system engineers. The stuff I do is all on the central server(s) or the GUI interfaces. Way more fun, IMO. We had a big project in Queensland a few years back on a power station job, and a fair few people went across to live there. Some have never returned... Debbie

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                                Christian Graus wrote: So if you have a bug, really bad things happen ? A bug, in released code??? Nah, never happens ;) Seriously, though, all the control aspects have failovers to local RTUs (Remote Telemetry Units, like, that really helps, right!) or whatever, so, say, if the comms go dead then it can function locally in isolation or revert to a safe mode. The nitty gritty control logic and management is all handled by system engineers. The stuff I do is all on the central server(s) or the GUI interfaces. Way more fun, IMO. We had a big project in Queensland a few years back on a power station job, and a fair few people went across to live there. Some have never returned... Debbie

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                                Debs wrote: We had a big project in Queensland a few years back on a power station job, and a fair few people went across to live there. Some have never returned... From the UK to Queensland ? I'm not surprised. Imagine a place where it's always sunny, and the beaches are white and pure..... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                                C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                                It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                                  Debs wrote: We had a big project in Queensland a few years back on a power station job, and a fair few people went across to live there. Some have never returned... From the UK to Queensland ? I'm not surprised. Imagine a place where it's always sunny, and the beaches are white and pure..... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                                  C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                                  It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003

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                                  One guy had to come back for family resons, and looked so depressed all the time that he really should have stayed there! There was one australian guy who emigrated to live here in the UK, but he was a bit weird. :~ Debbie

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