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Hey UK, How's That Gun-Free Zone Workin' Out For Y'all?

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Gun crime is actively reported in the UK because it's so rare. What's stupid is being a complete [word redacted to appease Slacker007] about the loss of a human life. John, your post was stupid, crass, insensitive, completely out of line and trolling.

      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        Pete OHanlon
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        mark merrens wrote:

        What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point.

        And that got my 5.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          mark merrens wrote:

          What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point.

          And that got my 5.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          Dalek Dave
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          Ditto

          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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            Dalek Dave
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            How is that "All Citizens Carry Guns And We Have One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates" working out for y'all? I am ex-military and have used weapons, and believe me I would not want our police carrying them. In fact gun crime here is so rare as to be abnormal.

            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              Keith Barrow
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              Well, that saved me some effort.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Minion no 5
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                Hey US, how is the KKK working out?

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  hayrob
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                  Did you think before you posted this? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't, and this post is an attempt at humour that went wrong.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    How is that "All Citizens Carry Guns And We Have One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates" working out for y'all? I am ex-military and have used weapons, and believe me I would not want our police carrying them. In fact gun crime here is so rare as to be abnormal.

                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                    Karl Sanford
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    We Have One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates

                    We're actually around the middle of the pack on murder rate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[^] If you're talking gun related murder rates, then yes, we suck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country[^] Not defending JSOP, he's an elephant for posting that, just thought the data was interesting.

                    Be The Noise

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      How's that foot tasting?

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                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                        Lost User
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                        Didn't I see that this is the worst cop shooting since Harry Roberts in 1966? Seems to be going ok in the most part.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Slacker007
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                          John, our cops carry guns and they die as well, in the line of duty. Cops die, with or without guns.

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                            Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                            Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                            Well said! 5+ Nothing to add.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              IMHO the police and the military should not be allowed to carry a weapon that a civilian is not allowed to carry.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              I mostly disagree. The citizenry probably shouldn't have bazookas and grenades.

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                                Hey US, how is the KKK working out?

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                                Chris Losinger
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                                it's down to about 3,000 people. so... about 1/3 of the number of votes that the National Front got in the UK in 2010.

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                                  I mostly disagree. The citizenry probably shouldn't have bazookas and grenades.

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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                  Neither should the government... of a free state.

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                    Neither should the government... of a free state.

                                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    If you mean the police, sure, but the military needs to protect against external threats.

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                                      How is that "All Citizens Carry Guns And We Have One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates" working out for y'all? I am ex-military and have used weapons, and believe me I would not want our police carrying them. In fact gun crime here is so rare as to be abnormal.

                                      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates

                                      And, I believe, THE highest incarceration rate.

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                                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                        IMHO the police and the military should not be allowed to carry a weapon that a civilian is not allowed to carry.

                                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        disagree

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun. Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed. I also know that most police in the UK don't want to carry guns since they feel that will encourage criminals to use them, so heightening the risk. Yes, some criminals do and have always carried but most don't. What's stupid is making a stupid remark with little or no knowledge and making it sound like you're crowing over their deaths because it makes your point. Shame on you.

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                                          wizardzz
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                                          mark merrens wrote:

                                          Actually, it usually works out pretty well. This is an unusual (and terrible) incident. Generally speaking the police don't need guns because the vast majority (over 99% probably) of the people neither have access to or want a gun

                                          He said: "I heard about 10 shots quite close, bang, bang, bang, like that. I knew they were gunshots because sometimes there is clay pigeon shooting in the fields. Sounds like everyone except the cops had guns.

                                          mark merrens wrote:

                                          Even if these poor girls had been carrying it looks like it was a trap and they may still have been killed.

                                          Considering he had a grenade, also illegal in US, it wasn't a fair fight. I think the only failure here is the justice system that let him walk while under suspicion of murder.

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