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Hey UK, How's That Gun-Free Zone Workin' Out For Y'all?

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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    Mike Diack
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    I don't like the inflamatory subject line. It's not big and it's not clever. You hardly need to look elsewhere to see that arming the police isn't the answer to all problems either. Have some respect for the dead.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      It most certainly does make my point. Gun control laws only disarm the law-abiding. Criminals, by their very nature, don't obey the law, so making laws concerning gun control are pointless.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      Mike Diack
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      Take your US politics elsewhere. The situation in the UK is different. Maybe if you actually came to the UK and spoke to people you'd understand.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        mark merrens wrote:

        it also shows your total ignorance of how guns are viewed in the UK. No one wants them. No one needs one.

        That's because you guys are used to being oppressed and monitored. Only you can fix that particular problem.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        Mike Diack
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        Now you're just trolling. Sod off.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          Distind
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          Better than Some other places.[^]

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          • S Slacker007

            I asked Pete to remove the asshole bit because we don't call people asshole here on this site. It sets a bad example for the other members and sends them a message that calling people names is Okay. I have called other members here names before, as well. It ultimately served no beneficial purpose, and it was wrong.

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            I know you did, but when someone behaves like an arsehole he deserves to be told so and I personally have no issue with using profanity to emphasise the point. At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it. Besides I think the whole PC thing is counter productive, I'm of the opinion that a little pain is an excellent teacher, sarcasm and vitriol are about the only way to deliver that here.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Better than Some other places.[^]

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              realJSOP
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              They don't get any training in NY because it's also a gun-free zone - [SARCASM]so they never have to shoot at anyone[/SARCASM]. You know what's REALLY absurd? Civilians that carry are held to a higher standard than the cops where collateral damage is concerned. The cops in that incident will probably receive "training", but a civilian in the same situation would receive physical brutality from the cops (and if they were shooting at him, several incident bystanders would be wounded) when they "take him down", assault charges, and jail time.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              • S Slacker007

                I see he can push your buttons, too.

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                realJSOP
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                If buttons get pushed, it ain't on me. It's on the pushee.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Chris Quinn
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                  82% of British cops say they don't want to be routinely armed.[^]

                  ==================================== Transvestites - Roberts in Disguise! ====================================

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                  • L Lost User

                    No doubt Somalia is worse, but do you really want to compare your country to that?

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                    realJSOP
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                    Gun violence isn't caused by guns (or the presence of guns). It's caused by social issues. 80 million Americans own guns, and each one has an average four guns each. I have three, and my wife has three, so I guess you'd say I'm not the "typical" American portrayed by those numbers.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    • S Slacker007

                      I see he can push your buttons, too.

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      He's just an arrogant, ignorant big-mouth who made an ill-judged remark and is now trying to extricate himself by being douche of the year. I think calling him an idiot exhibited great self control.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Even the cops don't carry guns - how stupid is that?[^]

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        BobJanova
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                        It's not stupid at all. It means they can't make a gun-related mistake and kill or seriously injure someone because they felt under pressure and made a poor decision. If they need to call in armed backup, they can do so. Having a gun at your hip doesn't stop you being shot anyway. And it's working out very well, thank you. Gun crime is rare here, unlike your armed-to-the-teeth paradise where there have been several high profile shooting sprees this year alone.

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                        • S Slacker007

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          Nobody's ever been able to do that. They like to THINK they have, but it actually hasn't happened.

                          What a miserable life you must have John, always trying to make sure people don't put you in your place and constantly telling us all about your endeavors and what a bad ass your are.

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                          realJSOP
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                          Think whatever you want to think (as long as the collective approves of it).

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          • M Mycroft Holmes

                            I know you did, but when someone behaves like an arsehole he deserves to be told so and I personally have no issue with using profanity to emphasise the point. At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it. Besides I think the whole PC thing is counter productive, I'm of the opinion that a little pain is an excellent teacher, sarcasm and vitriol are about the only way to deliver that here.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            realJSOP
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                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it.

                            No, I didn't admit to being a prat (whatever the hell that is). I merely expect people to say what they mean instead of sugar-coating it at the behest of the collective. And if people are going to stoop to playground behavior by calling me names, I expect them to put some effort into it. Norm called me a "dick", which lacks a creativity and pizazz. Pete calling me an asshole is - well, let's be practical - pointless (and lacks just as much creativity as Norm's proclamation that I'm a dick). What I find interesting is that people are acting as if I'm happy that two cops were killed, simply because I omitted what I thought was the BLINDINGLY F*KING OBVIOUS idea that it's a shame that they were sacrificed in the name of imagined security. If the individuals here want to go ahead and think that 1-voting me and name calling are somehow a viable defense of their imitation utopia, or that their actions have a snowball's chance in hell of changing my view of the world, more power to 'em (but honestly, they're wasting their time). And on a related note, I don't know who decided that the word "elephant" is a viable replacement for "f*ck", but y'all (the people that use it) really need to cowboy-up and say what you really want to say. In the case of "elephant", even "frak" (from Battlestar Galactica) is a better replacement, because everybody knows that's a thinly veiled version of the intended word.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              Well, yeah, and it seems to me that the best place to get such training is in the military.

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                              realJSOP
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                              Well, back then, everyone had a rifle and learned how to use it (if not for defense, then for survival). Concealment, stalking, evasion, and adaptability - skills equally necessary to hunt game for food.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              • M Mike Diack

                                Now you're just trolling. Sod off.

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                                realJSOP
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                                Actually, if I was trolling, I would just post something and let the vultures feed on it without further participation. Your response simply illustrates your apparent inability to present a compelling argument that contradicts my statement. I'll reply with something equally relevant and thought-provoking: My dad can beat up your dad.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                  At least JSOP admits he was being a prat and does not try and weasel his way out of it.

                                  No, I didn't admit to being a prat (whatever the hell that is). I merely expect people to say what they mean instead of sugar-coating it at the behest of the collective. And if people are going to stoop to playground behavior by calling me names, I expect them to put some effort into it. Norm called me a "dick", which lacks a creativity and pizazz. Pete calling me an asshole is - well, let's be practical - pointless (and lacks just as much creativity as Norm's proclamation that I'm a dick). What I find interesting is that people are acting as if I'm happy that two cops were killed, simply because I omitted what I thought was the BLINDINGLY F*KING OBVIOUS idea that it's a shame that they were sacrificed in the name of imagined security. If the individuals here want to go ahead and think that 1-voting me and name calling are somehow a viable defense of their imitation utopia, or that their actions have a snowball's chance in hell of changing my view of the world, more power to 'em (but honestly, they're wasting their time). And on a related note, I don't know who decided that the word "elephant" is a viable replacement for "f*ck", but y'all (the people that use it) really need to cowboy-up and say what you really want to say. In the case of "elephant", even "frak" (from Battlestar Galactica) is a better replacement, because everybody knows that's a thinly veiled version of the intended word.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Brisingr Aerowing
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                                  Here[^] I think he was referring to definition #2. Although none of those definitions actually describe you. You are more... Complex than that. (And please don't kill the messenger!)

                                  I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    How is that "All Citizens Carry Guns And We Have One Of The Worlds Highest Murder Rates" working out for y'all? I am ex-military and have used weapons, and believe me I would not want our police carrying them. In fact gun crime here is so rare as to be abnormal.

                                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                                    I am a Brit who now lives in the USA. In Britain, despite having been wounded in knife attacks on two separate occasions, I always felt relatively safe from murderous criminals. After some time with the military and unarmed (and armed) combat training I felt fairly confident in defending myself in most situations in the UK. However, I have never felt very safe in the US and even though I now own a gun (technically it is my (American) wife's weapon) I am still very careful of where and how I go and have once had to dive for cover during a nearby shooting incident! Despite the gun my wife was seriously beaten up by an armed man who broke into the house while I was out at work. Having personal firearms does not make you any inherently safer, if anything it increases the chance of getting shot. I can hardly wait to take my wife and son to the UK to live in more safety and get that huge feeling of relief and commensurate reduction in stress levels. I like America, but it could be so much better if... (too long a list to put here, but better restrictions on gun fanatics would be near the top of the list).

                                    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I honestly appreciate the sentiment, but... I no longer vote on stuff, answer questions, nor post articles. I haven't even run Reputationator since December. I also don't post messages because I think people will like it. I post what I want, and with over 9 "million" users, what I post is bound to offend someone's sensitivities (mostly foreigners). If the thought zombies here want to vote, they should, by all means, take their hands off their dicks long enough to click their mouse - whatever blows up their skirt. I'm not a supporter of the touchy-feely new world order, and I refuse to let my individuality, freedom of thought, or natural rights be absorbed and diffused by the collective. In short, screw 'em. :)

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Hey! I'm not a "foreigner", I'm British.

                                      - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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