sorry but I hate the new look

Ingo

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

Thus is Swiss design.

Can't be. For swiss design it loads to fast, or*? ;) * Swinglish extension, or?

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Pete OHanlon

And where do you think Microsoft got the idea for Metro from? They didn't invent it. Metro "borrows" heavily from the Swiss style of graphic design. Have a read up on Metro Design Philosophy and Metro Design Language.

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BeamingJo

Thanks for info. I thought as well that it was a MS like stylesheet :laugh: Personally, I love the new look. Articles and texts are "ventilated" and I find it easier and more pleasant to read and to navigate through the CP site.

Wrangly

ok, I agree why why everybody now must follow these guidelines ?? if MS haven't do it first, nobody would have to do it now !!personaly, I find that these new look is more difficult to read coz it's very pale but it's my opinion of course ...

Pete OHanlon

First of all, Microsoft didn't do it first. You completely missed the point there. Not everyone has to follow these guidelines, but they should follow some guidelines. So which design guidelines would you choose? Snow White? Apple?

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Wrangly

Previous look was ok, why to change ? have take a look at Visual Studio 11 for ex ? very hard to work with it...

Pete OHanlon

Chris covered it in this[^] article. He gave everyone a really, really big clue when I posted this article that he was thinking of updating the site, and why he was thinking of it. It's changed. It's not going back. Complaining about it isn't going to change that fact.

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Wrangly

"It's changed. It's not going back", I know, I know, ... no problem ! don't be so shocked ! everybody could have an opinion which is not necessarly yours ... ;)

jschell

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

And where do you think Microsoft got the idea for Metro from? They didn't invent it. Metro "borrows" heavily from the Swiss style of graphic design. Have a read up on Metro Design Philosophy and Metro Design Language.

So everyone uses it because they want to use the Swiss design? Rather than because Microsoft does it?

jschell

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

but they should follow some guidelines

Why? Pretty sure marketing firms don't get together and decide the norm for advertising. At least not in a way that I can see from the ads that I see.

Pete OHanlon

These are visual guidelines that come from many different styles, but they are still there, and they are there for a reason. They may mix and match the guidelines, but they will still use them - and these guides have come from many areas of art, things like composition balance, the rule of three, balance, colour selection, and so on. No advertiser ignores all the rules - there are some basics that never get ignored. That's why.

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Pete OHanlon

Does this really look like Microsoft? Sure, Microsoft made designers sit up and pay attention to this style again, but it never went away, and there were lots of successful sites using this styling long before Microsoft.

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jschell

Far as I can see that didn't answer the question. It merely repeated that Microsoft didn't invent it.

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

and there were lots of successful sites using this styling long before Microsoft.

So sites that used other styles were not successful? Or sites that use this style are more successful than those that do not? And what exactly is "lots" is say terms of unique vistors?

Ryan Criddle

The design principles being employed in the Metro look are not "new revolutionary ideas" ... they are tried-and-tested, known-for-centuries principles of typography and information layout. It's very similar to the Apple design philosophy, if you ask me. Simplicity and focus on typography. So come on, take another sip of the kool aid and chill out. In 3 months you'll forget just how much this redesign "offended you", and how simple, natural and nice to use it really is.