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  • B Brad Fackrell

    Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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    Mike Hankey
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    Not as easy as it sounds. You have to get some kind of USB sniffer to capture the data coming from the pump, it will be raw data and you will have to figure out what it means. It could be as simple as just sending data points to as complex as data packets. Good luck!

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      Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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      Lost User
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      Brad Fackrell wrote:

      Anybody have any ideas?

      First check if it uses some crazy proprietary interface or USB PHCD.

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      • B Brad Fackrell

        Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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        Andy Brummer
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        There are groups campaigning for open access to all the data from devices planted inside their bodies. They might be a good source. http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05/28/153706099/patients-crusade-for-access-to-their-medical-device-data[^]

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        • B Brad Fackrell

          Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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          Chris Maunder
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          Just don't crash the thing, K?

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            Just don't crash the thing, K?

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Andy Brummer
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            I'd hate to be on the QA team for that project. :omg:

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            • B Brad Fackrell

              Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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              Casey Sheridan
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              :thumbsup: I'm glad to hear that you're considering this! I, too have a Medtronic Insulin Pump and have thought many times of making my own data-retrieval program. However, I've always been turned away by the potential complexity and danger. :(

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              • B Brad Fackrell

                Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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                JimmyRopes
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                When you say a CareLink USB receiver do you mean that you plug it in to a usb port on your computer and it transmits data received wirelessly from the device. If so check to see if it conforms to the USB human interface device class specification[^]. If so take a look at this CP article; A USB HID Component for C#[^] He uses a different USB HID library than I did to process data from a digital scale but it really doesn't matter which library you use as long as you can read the data. As mentioned before you are on your own interpreting the data but you may be able to find articles on the internet describing the output from the device.

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                • B Brad Fackrell

                  Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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                  Garth J Lancaster
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                  There are ways to do exactely what you want - AirPcap, for example, allows 'sniffing' network traffic - as Wireshark does from a physical network interface. But both are fraught with danger - I'd look at the USB side first, as others have suggested already 'g'

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                  • B Brad Fackrell

                    Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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                    NormDroid
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                    I did this in a hotel on an open network :omg: during a Wedding party at night (I was part of the party). I used wireshark to demonstratehow easy it was to 'hack' into people data. Pretty interesting stuff I'll tell you.

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                    • B Brad Fackrell

                      Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      Brad, I think you may find resources on the well-known (MS dev tools guru: now working on the server side aspect of things ?) Scott Hanselman's blog: he is a diabetic, and does talk about that aspect of his life from time to time. He does have an implanted pump, and writes about that in this blog post: "The Sad State of Diabetes Technology in 2012" [^]. best, Bill

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                      • B Brad Fackrell

                        Is there a way to capture wireless data without knowing anything about the sending software/data format? I know this may seem a bit strange so I’ll explain: I have a Medtronic Paradigm Real-Time Revel insulin pump and a CareLink USB receiver that pulls data from my insulin pump. The problem is that the software provided to process the data sucks and I (being a closet programmer) have a million ideas of things that would make the software better. So, I’m trying to figure out how to pull the data from the insulin pump into my software. I’ve looked for an SDK and can’t find one and I’m pretty sure that I’d be wasting my time by going to the manufactured to ask for it. I’m just looking for a way (any way) that I can get the data from my pump to my program. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Brad

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                        Tarakeshwar Reddy
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                        Talk to Scott Hanselman[^]. He uses an insulin pump and he blogs about it now and then. I remember reading a blog post about some software he wrote but not able to locate it.

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