So I installed Ubuntu this morning.
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I'm surprised usually with Ubuntu it just works.
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Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1Nearly everything does just work. Except a PPPoE connection over wifi, which is one of the first things I wanted in Ubuntu. That's why I installed it; to discover how to set up that connection, so I can give my housemate definitive instructions to set up the same connection on his Ubuntu machine, without having to sit and dabble in confusion on his machine.
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It's on the top bar next to the time or ifconfig from the console. Ubuntu is a very good operating system. Been using it for 7 years now. :thumbsup:
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VectorX wrote:
It's on the top bar next to the time or ifconfig from the console.
I found the network manager button in the top bar, give me credit that far at least. :) My issue is that network manager isn't working. I create the DSL connection while connected to my router via cable, and I can connect over it. As soon as I unplug the cable, the DSL connection vanishes, even if I'm connected to the router via wifi. It looks like running pppoeconf will recognise a 'PPPoE Access Concentrator' on the wlan though, so I'm going to try that next.
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I'm surprised usually with Ubuntu it just works.
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1I second that, Ubuntu has improved a lot and I find it pretty simple to run. I also have set up a couple of computers of my "special customers" - none of them has any problems (after they recovered from the shock and figuring that Ubuntu works much better)
regards Torsten When I'm not working
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VectorX wrote:
It's on the top bar next to the time or ifconfig from the console.
I found the network manager button in the top bar, give me credit that far at least. :) My issue is that network manager isn't working. I create the DSL connection while connected to my router via cable, and I can connect over it. As soon as I unplug the cable, the DSL connection vanishes, even if I'm connected to the router via wifi. It looks like running pppoeconf will recognise a 'PPPoE Access Concentrator' on the wlan though, so I'm going to try that next.
You have to go to edit connections. Click on your connection then check the box connect automatically and save for all users. :-D
Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors. :)
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
Brady Kelly wrote:
In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
Whehe, yeah, but Windows is a commercial product. I'd be very surprised if something that's "free" would outpace the number one commercial OS. I'm a happy OpenSUSE/Ubuntu user, but I'm not looking at it as a replacement for Windows :)
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You have to go to edit connections. Click on your connection then check the box connect automatically and save for all users. :-D
Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors. :)
Once again, please give me credit. You can't create a wlan PPPoE connection through the UI, from everything I have tried. Only a wired network PPPoE connection.
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Once again, please give me credit. You can't create a wlan PPPoE connection through the UI, from everything I have tried. Only a wired network PPPoE connection.
Wait til you have wireless driver problems... :) hehe but that can be fixed by going to http://linuxwireless.org/[^] and installing the latest for your card.
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
Brady Kelly wrote:
It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion
Now you know why Linux doesn't have a larger foothold as a workstation OS. :|
Brady Kelly wrote:
I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan
The difference between Linux and Windows system administrators is that Linux system administrators need to be system administrators. :doh:
Brady Kelly wrote:
In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
As they say in New York City; fuggetaboutit! You will really need to know how to administer the machine now. On the minus side, you will have a steep learning curve. :thumbsdown: On the plus side, when you have mastered the details you will really know how the system operates. :thumbsup:
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Nearly everything does just work. Except a PPPoE connection over wifi, which is one of the first things I wanted in Ubuntu. That's why I installed it; to discover how to set up that connection, so I can give my housemate definitive instructions to set up the same connection on his Ubuntu machine, without having to sit and dabble in confusion on his machine.
Brady Kelly wrote:
so I can give my housemate definitive instructions to set up the same connection on his her Ubuntu machine, without having to sit and dabble in confusion on his her machine.
FTFY If it is a he then you have dabbled on his machine until you knew what you were doing and then set up yours if you liked the OS.
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
Even on Windows, we had a devil of a time getting Wifi to work across adjacent rooms. Everyone got tired of it so I had to wire the house.
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Even on Windows, we had a devil of a time getting Wifi to work across adjacent rooms. Everyone got tired of it so I had to wire the house.
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
That sounds like a hardware problem though.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion
Now you know why Linux doesn't have a larger foothold as a workstation OS. :|
Brady Kelly wrote:
I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan
The difference between Linux and Windows system administrators is that Linux system administrators need to be system administrators. :doh:
Brady Kelly wrote:
In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
As they say in New York City; fuggetaboutit! You will really need to know how to administer the machine now. On the minus side, you will have a steep learning curve. :thumbsdown: On the plus side, when you have mastered the details you will really know how the system operates. :thumbsup:
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
The difference between Linux and Windows system administrators is that Linux system administrators need to be system administrators.
Hey, I am not a Linux SysAdmin, but I have taught some Linux SysAdmins here at Ivy Tech a thing or two (or three or four or five or... well, you get the idea). I think it is kind of sad that I, as a lowly student, knows more about Linux than the paid Linux SysAdmins here. :sigh:
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That sounds like a hardware problem though.
Given that the signal is transmitted through the ether, I thought it would be vaporware.
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
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JimmyRopes wrote:
The difference between Linux and Windows system administrators is that Linux system administrators need to be system administrators.
Hey, I am not a Linux SysAdmin, but I have taught some Linux SysAdmins here at Ivy Tech a thing or two (or three or four or five or... well, you get the idea). I think it is kind of sad that I, as a lowly student, knows more about Linux than the paid Linux SysAdmins here. :sigh:
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking
Zac Greve wrote:
I think it is kind of sad that I, as a lowly student, knows more about Linux than the paid Linux SysAdmins here.
Sounds like they were SysAdmins in name only. Actually things have changed quite a lot since I was a UNIX SysAdmin in the 1980's. These days you do not need to have as much knowledgd of the inner workings to be able to administer a Linux machine.
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And so far, I am not impressed. It has been a long day of googling, and finding only examples of others' frustration and confusion, and I am still not able to set up a DSL (PPPoE) connection over my wlan. In Windows I created a new connection, enter username and password, and it works.
Well me being a Ubuntu user and have set up a DSL connection before. I have a couple of question so we can solve the issues at hand. First what type of modem do you have. You may need to install the driver correctly. Secondly how is it connected to the computer, if it is connected using USB, run the following command in a terminal and post the output:
lsusb
If its a PCI modem use:
lspci -k
I am specificly looking for the Device IDs.
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Well me being a Ubuntu user and have set up a DSL connection before. I have a couple of question so we can solve the issues at hand. First what type of modem do you have. You may need to install the driver correctly. Secondly how is it connected to the computer, if it is connected using USB, run the following command in a terminal and post the output:
lsusb
If its a PCI modem use:
lspci -k
I am specificly looking for the Device IDs.
Our connections are working OK now, thanks. It was the pppoeconf tool that did the trick.
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Our connections are working OK now, thanks. It was the pppoeconf tool that did the trick.
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I think it will take a bit of time before there's any loving. Windows 7 is my default OS, from familiarity and that I do 95% Windows programming. Windows 7 doesn't lack anything for me, so Ubuntu will have to go the extra mile. That said, I am going to give it a proper chance and try and use it whenever I'm not working, for personal use, media etc.
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I think it will take a bit of time before there's any loving. Windows 7 is my default OS, from familiarity and that I do 95% Windows programming. Windows 7 doesn't lack anything for me, so Ubuntu will have to go the extra mile. That said, I am going to give it a proper chance and try and use it whenever I'm not working, for personal use, media etc.
I absolutely understand. I did it when I was running Windows XP. What I ended up doing was running the applications that I would run in Ubuntu (back then it was Ubuntu 6.06) on Windows XP. As I got use to them there was a point in time, where I was using more of these tools. So I moved from that to running Ubuntu in a virtual machine. I learned from that how the file system works, and also how to do basic networking. I then started using the Ubuntu virtual machine so much that I decided to switch the equation, so that Ubuntu was the host and Windows XP was the guest. Over time I found myself using XP less and less. I now use the XP VM just for testing websites in IE and my current ASP.NET investigations. I also had a lot of problems like you, when doing the final switch from XP to Ubuntu, except I also had a strange problem where if I set my startup display in the BIOS to the graphics card (ATI Radieon 9200SE), Xorg would not start correctly, however if I had my on board graphics card set. and my Monitor connected to the Radieon, it would work perfectly. BTW I have been a PHP developer for 8 years, and I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is. I am so use to everything being so simple and dynamic in PHP. Simple applications that requires authentication, simple form validation and output (for example is the email supplied a valid email address) seems so complicated for what it actually is. All I am trying to do is a simple CMS that has search engine friendly URLs. In PHP it takes about all of 30 mins. However I seem to be fighting VS2010 more than I am actually writing code and I have spent more than 3 days and got nowhere. So your not alone!!! However I am sure its just because I am use to the PHP ways of doing it, and I will get use to it.
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I absolutely understand. I did it when I was running Windows XP. What I ended up doing was running the applications that I would run in Ubuntu (back then it was Ubuntu 6.06) on Windows XP. As I got use to them there was a point in time, where I was using more of these tools. So I moved from that to running Ubuntu in a virtual machine. I learned from that how the file system works, and also how to do basic networking. I then started using the Ubuntu virtual machine so much that I decided to switch the equation, so that Ubuntu was the host and Windows XP was the guest. Over time I found myself using XP less and less. I now use the XP VM just for testing websites in IE and my current ASP.NET investigations. I also had a lot of problems like you, when doing the final switch from XP to Ubuntu, except I also had a strange problem where if I set my startup display in the BIOS to the graphics card (ATI Radieon 9200SE), Xorg would not start correctly, however if I had my on board graphics card set. and my Monitor connected to the Radieon, it would work perfectly. BTW I have been a PHP developer for 8 years, and I am doing some investigation on how good ASP.NET actually is. I am so use to everything being so simple and dynamic in PHP. Simple applications that requires authentication, simple form validation and output (for example is the email supplied a valid email address) seems so complicated for what it actually is. All I am trying to do is a simple CMS that has search engine friendly URLs. In PHP it takes about all of 30 mins. However I seem to be fighting VS2010 more than I am actually writing code and I have spent more than 3 days and got nowhere. So your not alone!!! However I am sure its just because I am use to the PHP ways of doing it, and I will get use to it.
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