What's new after 20 years?
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If you favor Windows, C#, ASP.NET (MVC and Web Forms), WPF (though there is some stuff I haven't tried yet... maybe it'd be called WinRT), Windows Forms. Pretty much anything .Net Framework. All of this is done in Visual Studio. If you favor Mac OS, Ruby on Rails, Objective-C, Cocoa. For web stuff, jQuery, Ajax, Web Services, Cloud Computing (e.g., Azure, Amazon Cloud). If you're a masochist, Flash/ActionScript, PHP.
I guess I'm a masochist then I've tinkered a lot with PHP. Is PHP a viable language though, meaning is it actually used for real stuff?? :cool: Thanks for all of your input, gives ideas in what direction to look anyway!! I thought I kept up with the business, but no I haven't...
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Do you like drinking? :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
Gotta drink!!! But that too is old hat...
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You know I was actually wondering if that occured!! But the web was a mystery back then. It was spoken of with reverence and in hushed tones. Now I guess the real new star is the smartphone...
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You know I was actually wondering if that occured!! But the web was a mystery back then. It was spoken of with reverence and in hushed tones. Now I guess the real new star is the smartphone...
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Hunter Cottage wrote:
Now I guess the real new star PITA is the smartphone...
Fixed it for you. :-D
Thanks for the heads up!!! Too funny!!:thumbsup:
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I've been away from the business about 20 years now. I studied CS in the early 90's when C++ was the upcoming star, to find out that it is old hat now-a-days. I've been side-tracked by accounting and it would be interesting to find out your take as to what an Old Fart like me should update my skills with...
If you have nothing constructive to say, be silent!
The Internet is on computers, now.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That might be your coding style, but...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That might be your coding style, but...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The Internet is on computers, now.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I get it... I want a T1 myself!
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That will be nice, when it happens!
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That will be nice, when it happens!
PRO TIP: It isn't going to ever happen. After years of promising this the fact is we are worse of today than 10 years ago because we now have different form factors. It appears the whole thing is getting worse to me and I expect soon to have a request to build a website that looks good on a clay tablet or as a tattoo on an elephant's arse.
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I guess I'm a masochist then I've tinkered a lot with PHP. Is PHP a viable language though, meaning is it actually used for real stuff?? :cool: Thanks for all of your input, gives ideas in what direction to look anyway!! I thought I kept up with the business, but no I haven't...
Hunter Cottage wrote:
Is PHP a viable language though, meaning is it actually used for real stuff
It seems like a server-side scripting language from what I've seen of it (not much). And that's not a compliment. Basically, it has a low learning curve, but it doesn't seem designed for more complex software. I hear it's the most common language used for web work, but then most websites are complete garbage, so that makes sense. Some notable exception to the rule that PHP is used for simple stuff are MediaWiki, which is the software that runs Wikipedia, and WordPress, which is used to run pretty much every blog out there. If you want to write a plugin for either of those, you'll want to learn PHP. Still, I've seen how some of those plugins work, and they're not exactly shining examples of software excellence (they seem like hacks on top of hacks).
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Hunter Cottage wrote:
Is PHP a viable language though, meaning is it actually used for real stuff
It seems like a server-side scripting language from what I've seen of it (not much). And that's not a compliment. Basically, it has a low learning curve, but it doesn't seem designed for more complex software. I hear it's the most common language used for web work, but then most websites are complete garbage, so that makes sense. Some notable exception to the rule that PHP is used for simple stuff are MediaWiki, which is the software that runs Wikipedia, and WordPress, which is used to run pretty much every blog out there. If you want to write a plugin for either of those, you'll want to learn PHP. Still, I've seen how some of those plugins work, and they're not exactly shining examples of software excellence (they seem like hacks on top of hacks).
I've done some quick browsing of the different languages you suggested, and it seems like Ruby on Rails is trying to do what PHP can't and then some. Seems very interesting indeed!! Thanks again for you input!
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I've been away from the business about 20 years now. I studied CS in the early 90's when C++ was the upcoming star, to find out that it is old hat now-a-days. I've been side-tracked by accounting and it would be interesting to find out your take as to what an Old Fart like me should update my skills with...
If you have nothing constructive to say, be silent!
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Sorry! I have a brother Dave... My name is Brian Kuehn and I live in Stockholm Sweden.
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Sorry! I have a brother Dave... My name is Brian Kuehn and I live in Stockholm Sweden.
Wizardzz was making a subtle allusion to another member here, "Dalek Dave", who is also an accountant. :)
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I've been away from the business about 20 years now. I studied CS in the early 90's when C++ was the upcoming star, to find out that it is old hat now-a-days. I've been side-tracked by accounting and it would be interesting to find out your take as to what an Old Fart like me should update my skills with...
If you have nothing constructive to say, be silent!
Hunter Cottage wrote:
like me should update my skills with...
These days you really need to decide an area to focus on first. You might mess around in Java or C# but it is probably impossible to explore all facets of those languages. So finding a direction early one would help.
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I've been away from the business about 20 years now. I studied CS in the early 90's when C++ was the upcoming star, to find out that it is old hat now-a-days. I've been side-tracked by accounting and it would be interesting to find out your take as to what an Old Fart like me should update my skills with...
If you have nothing constructive to say, be silent!
It's like surfing...Lots of product waves that are supposed to be the ultimate, become only the next big thing, then are forgotten (except for code maintenance). Silverlight is a good example. It was supposed to be "the next big thing" and to "conquer the web" and "everyone should learn it". Now it's abandoned by Microsoft and effectively dead for new development. Oh, wait...Now there's Metro! "Catch the wave, man! It's so cool! It's the ultimate!" Next year it will be something else that will save the world, produce world peace, and be the Silver Bullet. This same technology wave phenomena occurs in Java and to a lesser extent in other environments and tools. The newcomer will keep getting hit by the waves until he/she: 1. Picks one and rides it in to the beach. 2. Gives up. 3. Learns to surf. So pick a wave and learn to surf it and perhaps ride it in to the beach or keep catching new ones until you're tired of new waves! - Grant
C. Grant Anderson
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Wizardzz was making a subtle allusion to another member here, "Dalek Dave", who is also an accountant. :)
Its all good!! Walked right into that one...
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Hunter Cottage wrote:
like me should update my skills with...
These days you really need to decide an area to focus on first. You might mess around in Java or C# but it is probably impossible to explore all facets of those languages. So finding a direction early one would help.
Good thought! Will do! Thanks for your input!!
