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    Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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      Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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      • B Brian Aberle

        Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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        Wow! You're good in the Copy-Paste technique!

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          This time he included links those, hence the (annotated). The guys been a member for quite some time. I figured more CPians would be proud of a fellow CPian that was crafty enough to escape of jail multiple times.

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            Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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            Mate, seriously, what do you hope to gain by posting this here? I read your diatribe last night, and I've read this version, and I still can't see what your exact issue is. Part of the problem is that you chop and change in your personal timeline, so it's impossible to know the sequence of events - hence your "escape" comes before your first arrest. If you really are such a victim of a miscarriage of justice, and you have evidence that the DA, Judge and Sherriff are corrupt, then you need to seek avenues in America. Raising this with a buch of cynical developers on a foreign site, visited by foreigners, does absolutely nothing for your case.

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            • B Brian Aberle

              Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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              Did you mean to post this on facebook?

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                This time he included links those, hence the (annotated). The guys been a member for quite some time. I figured more CPians would be proud of a fellow CPian that was crafty enough to escape of jail multiple times.

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                It was more of a joke than a criticism. He's certainly dedicated to the CP cause, on the run from the police in October, November 2010 he took time out to answer questions on his XML article, apologising for his tardiness in responding.

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                  Mate, seriously, what do you hope to gain by posting this here? I read your diatribe last night, and I've read this version, and I still can't see what your exact issue is. Part of the problem is that you chop and change in your personal timeline, so it's impossible to know the sequence of events - hence your "escape" comes before your first arrest. If you really are such a victim of a miscarriage of justice, and you have evidence that the DA, Judge and Sherriff are corrupt, then you need to seek avenues in America. Raising this with a buch of cynical developers on a foreign site, visited by foreigners, does absolutely nothing for your case.

                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                  Kenneth Haugland
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                  I don't think there is much we can do either, and if he want's to deal with this It would be better to send an e-mail to some newscaster. They might be interested in this. I don't think there is many CP'ians that really could help him either.

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                  • B Brian Aberle

                    Thanks to contraband technology, by using internet access via phones smuggled into the prison, I was able to send email to contact individuals who showed concern for honest justice by making phone calls to the authorities. My lawyer, Marcia Shein, called warden Stanley Williams when legal mail they sent was not being delivered to me. Paper mail is regulated in prison, e-mail is not regulated - so e-mail enables a power that was intended to be forbidden by the prison administration. By using this forbidden power, I contacted individuals which ultimately manifested my release from prison on October 5, 2012. That first email on June 14, 2012 rightly accused the State of Georgia of trying to kill me. That e-mail caused the Georgia Department of Corrections to send an Internal Affairs investigator to meet with me the following day. Angry prison administration punished me with various acts including a month in isolation (the hole), 5 property shakedowns and strip searches in a 5 week period, and being locked in a 1 man shower stall for up to 5 hours. During this time the violence in the dorm I came out of escalated with over 10 new stabbings in just a few weeks. On July 19, 2012 one prisoner died in that dorm. At the time I sent the e-mail there had been 18 people stabbed in that 100 man dorm during the 9 months I had been there. My assessment of the danger being life threatening is accurate based on the facts. Georgia authorities use indirect capital punishment by creating the form of imprisonment and classification that they do. This was actually more of an escape than a release. I was released on parole to no address. I am a homeless man on house arrest. I am free. The federal court in the Northern District of Georgia recently ruled that my indigent financial state allows me to proceed in court without paying fees, therefore parole fees will also be an unreasonable demand. In 2008 the 9th circuit in the Northern District of California ruled in my previous case when I violated federal probation for not reporting or paying fees: The Honorable judge Martin Jenkins ruled that I was Not Guilty because “the United States does not have a debtors prison". He then ordered the US Marshalls to reimburse my meals, hotel, and travel costs while I attended the probation revocation hearing in San Francisco. Judge Martin Jenkins made that constitutional ruling that set me free while the US Attorney petitioned for prison time. Judge Jenkins has since moved from the 9th circuit to the U.S. Court of appeals.

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                    Much as I sympathise with your alleged miscarriage of justice, is this the appropriate place to place a what could be interpreted as a "rant". The soapbox sounds like a more appropriate place for this.

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                      It was more of a joke than a criticism. He's certainly dedicated to the CP cause, on the run from the police in October, November 2010 he took time out to answer questions on his XML article, apologising for his tardiness in responding.

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                      Kenneth Haugland
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                      Now, thats what I call a dedicated programmer :-D

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                        This time he included links those, hence the (annotated). The guys been a member for quite some time. I figured more CPians would be proud of a fellow CPian that was crafty enough to escape of jail multiple times.

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                        Kenneth Haugland
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                        Speaking of reposts, where is the 185 otd? :^)

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                          I don't think there is much we can do either, and if he want's to deal with this It would be better to send an e-mail to some newscaster. They might be interested in this. I don't think there is many CP'ians that really could help him either.

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                          Mainstream media is not interested in pursuing a real news story. They prefer the government-provided pablum that's easier for them to digest, with the I's dotted, the T's crossed, and the facts pre-checked by their "source". Journalists have been labeled as terrorists here, and the only "right" information is supplied by the state. Meanwhile, the AG runs a gun program to dilute our constitutional freedoms and is backed up by the administration (so much for separation of powers), DHS is in an ammo-buying spree (1.6 BILLION rounds since June), gas is $6/gallon and being rationed in California, and genetically modified crops are causing cancerous growths in lab rats, yet they STILL insist on selling this stuff for human consumption. Yet all we hear about in the news is doctored polls and unemployment numbers (and the fact that they're doctored is NOT making the news report). And that's just the tip of the iceberg (which is melting at alarming rates if the global warming alarmists are to be believed).

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            Mate, seriously, what do you hope to gain by posting this here? I read your diatribe last night, and I've read this version, and I still can't see what your exact issue is. Part of the problem is that you chop and change in your personal timeline, so it's impossible to know the sequence of events - hence your "escape" comes before your first arrest. If you really are such a victim of a miscarriage of justice, and you have evidence that the DA, Judge and Sherriff are corrupt, then you need to seek avenues in America. Raising this with a buch of cynical developers on a foreign site, visited by foreigners, does absolutely nothing for your case.

                            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                            Simon_Whale
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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            Raising this with a buch of cynical developers on a foreign site, visited by foreigners, does absolutely nothing for your case.

                            This statement did make me chuckle here.

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                              Mainstream media is not interested in pursuing a real news story. They prefer the government-provided pablum that's easier for them to digest, with the I's dotted, the T's crossed, and the facts pre-checked by their "source". Journalists have been labeled as terrorists here, and the only "right" information is supplied by the state. Meanwhile, the AG runs a gun program to dilute our constitutional freedoms and is backed up by the administration (so much for separation of powers), DHS is in an ammo-buying spree (1.6 BILLION rounds since June), gas is $6/gallon and being rationed in California, and genetically modified crops are causing cancerous growths in lab rats, yet they STILL insist on selling this stuff for human consumption. Yet all we hear about in the news is doctored polls and unemployment numbers (and the fact that they're doctored is NOT making the news report). And that's just the tip of the iceberg (which is melting at alarming rates if the global warming alarmists are to be believed).

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                              Kenneth Haugland
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                              Well, real news stories might be controversial, you might lose viewers, so they may choose not to run those stories. And in general news is on the way down, papers etc, but put on a live car chase and they all tune in...

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                              And that's just the tip of the iceberg (which is melting at alarming rates if the global warming alarmists are to be believed).

                              Newspapers are loosing money hand over fist no? BTW; What/how is AG?

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                                Well, real news stories might be controversial, you might lose viewers, so they may choose not to run those stories. And in general news is on the way down, papers etc, but put on a live car chase and they all tune in...

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                                And that's just the tip of the iceberg (which is melting at alarming rates if the global warming alarmists are to be believed).

                                Newspapers are loosing money hand over fist no? BTW; What/how is AG?

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                I assume that AG is Attorney General.

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                                  I assume that AG is Attorney General.

                                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                                  Kenneth Haugland
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                                  Ah, I though he was meaning some new gun he had bought :rolleyes:

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                                    Mainstream media is not interested in pursuing a real news story. They prefer the government-provided pablum that's easier for them to digest, with the I's dotted, the T's crossed, and the facts pre-checked by their "source". Journalists have been labeled as terrorists here, and the only "right" information is supplied by the state. Meanwhile, the AG runs a gun program to dilute our constitutional freedoms and is backed up by the administration (so much for separation of powers), DHS is in an ammo-buying spree (1.6 BILLION rounds since June), gas is $6/gallon and being rationed in California, and genetically modified crops are causing cancerous growths in lab rats, yet they STILL insist on selling this stuff for human consumption. Yet all we hear about in the news is doctored polls and unemployment numbers (and the fact that they're doctored is NOT making the news report). And that's just the tip of the iceberg (which is melting at alarming rates if the global warming alarmists are to be believed).

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                                    Gas is not being rationed and is not $6 a gallon. No idea where you got that from but it is rubbish. The cause is 2 fold: 1) The oil companies can't release winter blend until the end of the month so are letting summer blend stocks run down which, in turn, is causing profiteering because of short supplies. Governor Brown last night ordered that winter blend fuel be released early and that should help push prices back down again. The highest I paid over the weekend was $4.69 a gallon and it is still at that when I passed the gas station this morning.

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                                      Gas is not being rationed and is not $6 a gallon. No idea where you got that from but it is rubbish. The cause is 2 fold: 1) The oil companies can't release winter blend until the end of the month so are letting summer blend stocks run down which, in turn, is causing profiteering because of short supplies. Governor Brown last night ordered that winter blend fuel be released early and that should help push prices back down again. The highest I paid over the weekend was $4.69 a gallon and it is still at that when I passed the gas station this morning.

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                                      Kenneth Haugland
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                                      A gallon is about 3,7 liters no? A gallon in norway costs about 10 US$ meaning twice as much... You have cheap gasoline :)

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                                        A gallon is about 3,7 liters no? A gallon in norway costs about 10 US$ meaning twice as much... You have cheap gasoline :)

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                                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                                        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                        You have cheap gasoline :)

                                        Perhaps as a direct comparison but not when you take into account the ridiculous rise in prices over this year. Yes, it has been cheap but isn't any more. Remember that there is a much heavier reliance on using cars here with long distances to travel quite common. For instance, gas is cheaper here than in the UK but I use a lot more of it.

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                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          You have cheap gasoline :)

                                          Perhaps as a direct comparison but not when you take into account the ridiculous rise in prices over this year. Yes, it has been cheap but isn't any more. Remember that there is a much heavier reliance on using cars here with long distances to travel quite common. For instance, gas is cheaper here than in the UK but I use a lot more of it.

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                                          Gas prices are heavily taxed here in Norway as well. And cars are really expensive compared to nearly every other country in the world. And western Norway consists of many fjords that have inhabitants on each side of the fjords having 1000 meter mountains on each side. MEaning its reaaaaaly expensive to build roads here, a normal two lane highway costs about 20 000 USD per meter. In fact just Nederland and Switzerland can match the costs in Europe. However houses (just to) be much cheaper here in Norway than the majority of Europe, and most people own their own house, thats really not common as far as I know...

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