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Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
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MehGerbil wrote:
people who enact bad policies
They need to justify their existence, because most of the time they don't do anything that contributes to the revenue stream.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
They need to justify their existence, because most of the time they don't do anything that contributes to the revenue stream.
Look, we all know the suits get paid to look and smell good, attend pricey events at the Marriot, and to hand out vacuous awards to people when they retire. That's all good, I don't care if you get 10X my salary to do that. Congrats - you @$$ kissed your way into a do-nothing job for which you are grossly overpaid. All I ask is that you don't forget the dream. You worked hard to get to where you don't have to do anything so remember that - remember that you've worked yourself into a do nothing job which means you aren't supposed to be doing anything. Accept the fact you're a leech, a parasite, a fraud, a gasbag - and enjoy the ride. The moment you forget that you are supposed to be doing nothing is the moment you begin to make mistakes. I'd rather remove porn site viruses from one of the three company laptops you have at home then get an email from you enacting a new policy. Be a good little boy and watch teh pretty ladies and stay the hell away from management books, conferences, magazines and so forth. The choice is simple: When given the choice between porn and policy for the love of productivity please go with the porn.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
They need to justify their existence, because most of the time they don't do anything that contributes to the revenue stream.
Look, we all know the suits get paid to look and smell good, attend pricey events at the Marriot, and to hand out vacuous awards to people when they retire. That's all good, I don't care if you get 10X my salary to do that. Congrats - you @$$ kissed your way into a do-nothing job for which you are grossly overpaid. All I ask is that you don't forget the dream. You worked hard to get to where you don't have to do anything so remember that - remember that you've worked yourself into a do nothing job which means you aren't supposed to be doing anything. Accept the fact you're a leech, a parasite, a fraud, a gasbag - and enjoy the ride. The moment you forget that you are supposed to be doing nothing is the moment you begin to make mistakes. I'd rather remove porn site viruses from one of the three company laptops you have at home then get an email from you enacting a new policy. Be a good little boy and watch teh pretty ladies and stay the hell away from management books, conferences, magazines and so forth. The choice is simple: When given the choice between porn and policy for the love of productivity please go with the porn.
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Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
We spent four months creating design documentation which resulted in a schedule being created in MS Project, with each task being assigned a resource and hours needed to complete the task. We've been working on the code for almost six weeks, and nobody seems to care how much time we're spending on a given task.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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MehGerbil wrote:
You worked hard to get to where you ...
Kissed some a$$ more like.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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We spent four months creating design documentation which resulted in a schedule being created in MS Project, with each task being assigned a resource and hours needed to complete the task. We've been working on the code for almost six weeks, and nobody seems to care how much time we're spending on a given task.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
MehGerbil wrote:
Either that, or coporal punishment
Um. That would we punishment indeed! :omg:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
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Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
I think that time management should be on the employee. It is where I work. All management has to do is make sure that you entered your time and that you are not fudging the numbers, too noticeably. :) We, as employees, get dinged hard for not entering correct time into the system, when it is do.
MehGerbil wrote:
We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies
Don't give them pay raises...it works, trust me.
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MehGerbil wrote:
Either that, or coporal punishment
Um. That would we punishment indeed! :omg:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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That is the American spelling of the word. Dictionary[^] We don't like to wste vwls in Amrca.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
They need to justify their existence, because most of the time they don't do anything that contributes to the revenue stream.
Look, we all know the suits get paid to look and smell good, attend pricey events at the Marriot, and to hand out vacuous awards to people when they retire. That's all good, I don't care if you get 10X my salary to do that. Congrats - you @$$ kissed your way into a do-nothing job for which you are grossly overpaid. All I ask is that you don't forget the dream. You worked hard to get to where you don't have to do anything so remember that - remember that you've worked yourself into a do nothing job which means you aren't supposed to be doing anything. Accept the fact you're a leech, a parasite, a fraud, a gasbag - and enjoy the ride. The moment you forget that you are supposed to be doing nothing is the moment you begin to make mistakes. I'd rather remove porn site viruses from one of the three company laptops you have at home then get an email from you enacting a new policy. Be a good little boy and watch teh pretty ladies and stay the hell away from management books, conferences, magazines and so forth. The choice is simple: When given the choice between porn and policy for the love of productivity please go with the porn.
MehGerbil wrote:
Accept the fact you're a leech, a parasite, a fraud, a gasbag
You shouldn't hold back your emotions. :-D It is bad for your health.
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You know I'd only enjoy it! :laugh:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Everyone in one [redacted] department of 20 people was asked to keep detailed time sheets. The department is entirely overhead - there is no client billing. A single person was put in charge of the database. The data was meticulously entered and carefully managed. Data was collected for more than a year. After nobody asked to see the data they all stopped tracking time. They all knew it would be this way. Until we develop a way to subtract the time wasted from the department head's paycheck this sort of nonsense will continue. Either that, or corporal punishment of some sort needs to be applied. How is a department head supposed to make sense of the numbers anyways? They don't know how long a task takes so how can the timesheet be an aid? What are they teaching in management school these days? I don't care if someone wants to go off to a corner and waste his own time but when idiotic policies begin screwing up my work day I start to get a little bit upset. We need a way to punish people who enact bad policies - not just managers but politicians and so forth. There needs to be some accountability for being a freakin' moron. Edited: Edited to fix a spelling error so the local grammar nazi can sleep tonight.
There are a variety of reason for a company to record hours; If they have government contracts (or are a subcontractor) it may be a requirement - which would explain why the company itself doesn't review the data, they are just checking the contractual box knowing it will be there if they are audited. They may be trying to build a data base that can be used in the future for planning/scheduling/estimating. They may have planned to collect several years worth of data before they used it. Or the guy that had big plans for the data has been promoted / left the company and forgot all about it!
