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    Chris Maunder
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    This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Wendelius
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      "every little bit counts"

      That's up to the programmers... :rolleyes:

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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        "every little bit counts"

        That's up to the programmers... :rolleyes:

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        Lost User
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        If we let every bit count, nothing is left for frakbook or the (cr)apps.

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          This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          wizardzz
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

          I thought Foxconn was the hardware manufacturer. I'd rather them care more about humans than every little bit.

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

            I thought Foxconn was the hardware manufacturer. I'd rather them care more about humans than every little bit.

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            wizardzz wrote:

            I thought Foxconn was the hardware manufacturer. I'd rather them care more about humans than every little bit.

            Why are you on a technology site if you care about humans more than hardware? Sheesh.

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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

              I thought Foxconn was the hardware manufacturer. I'd rather them care more about humans than every little bit.

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              Chris Maunder
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              OK, obviously.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                wizardzz wrote:

                I thought Foxconn was the hardware manufacturer. I'd rather them care more about humans than every little bit.

                Why are you on a technology site if you care about humans more than hardware? Sheesh.

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                They taste better?

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                  OK, obviously.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  wizardzz
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                  I do wonder if Apple paid Foxconn, (whom would have to pay the Welding Institute) for exclusive rights to the technique, preventing other companies from using it to create devices. If so, what a marketing move; essentially branding a buzzword that might not mean much in performance but nobody else can use. "But mom, I don't want a Surface, all the kids at school have Apple. You know they use friction stir welding right? You wouldn't want me learning on an old conventionally welded machine would you?"

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                    They taste better?

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                    I wonder how much they'd have to increase the price of a $499.00 iPad to give those workers decent hours and a decent wage?

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                      I wonder how much they'd have to increase the price of a $499.00 iPad to give those workers decent hours and a decent wage?

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                      Probably about -$300.00.

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        A butt weld...I ain't sticking mine anywhere near that rotating device thank you.

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                          I wonder how much they'd have to increase the price of a $499.00 iPad to give those workers decent hours and a decent wage?

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                          $0. They could simply make less profit.

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                            This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                            This has been the mindset of just about every PC manufacturer for the last 20 odd years which is why new PCs are bloated corpses flailing under the weight of "utilities" that manufacturers insist on weighing new machines down with. Seriously, if the extras take up more space than the operating system, and if you have to spend three weeks hunting them down and killing them, then you know you have a problem.

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                              I wonder how much they'd have to increase the price of a $499.00 iPad to give those workers decent hours and a decent wage?

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                              wizardzz
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                              Increase price, or just take a little hit in profits, which are hidden and protected from U.S. taxes anyway. [^] I always thought it was good sustainable business practice when your employees made enough to purchase the products they make. That's why Henry Ford made the $5 day and introduced profit sharing, to create a market. "Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible." Henry Ford

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                                This has been the mindset of just about every PC manufacturer for the last 20 odd years which is why new PCs are bloated corpses flailing under the weight of "utilities" that manufacturers insist on weighing new machines down with. Seriously, if the extras take up more space than the operating system, and if you have to spend three weeks hunting them down and killing them, then you know you have a problem.

                                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                I'm thinking more from the point of quality, not from the point of including the kitchen sink. Crapware most certainly doesn't enhance quality.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  A butt weld...I ain't sticking mine anywhere near that rotating device thank you.

                                  VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  Heh huh heh heh. You said butt.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Heh huh heh heh. You said butt.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Are you going to take away my executive lounge privileges?, I'll be good I promise.

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                                      This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Clifford Nelson
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                                      Truth of the matter is the manufacturing is the most imporant aspect of a product. In Japan (and probably the rest of the far east) manufacturing is a big engineering field. In the US it is almost an afterthought. Design engineering is the big draw. So now most of the manufacturing in the US has disappeared, and the US gets so much of thier manufactured goods from overseas. The US may have the greatest technology, but cannot competatively manufacture it.

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                                        This[^] was not a term I'd heard of 5 mins ago but while watching the Engadget broadcast of the Apple event I saw a slide stating that Apple was using FSW on the new iMac. I don't care whether FSW is snake oil or something usually reserved for Space Shuttles, but I think it's way cool to hear a manufacturer of computers get all excited about their products to the point where they want to talk about the welding they used. I hope more hardware manufacturers start thinking about their products in more of a "every little bit counts" way of thinking.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Maximilien
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                                        I don't really understand how this works (well, I get it, but not completely) You start by drilling into( between) the material (possible loss of raw material ?) and then the drill bit heat up and move between the 2 plates and then pressure is applied ? In the last 2 examples in the video below, it would seem there is a hole left over from the welding ? (warning cheesy music) Friction Stir Welding[^]

                                        Nihil obstat

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                                          Increase price, or just take a little hit in profits, which are hidden and protected from U.S. taxes anyway. [^] I always thought it was good sustainable business practice when your employees made enough to purchase the products they make. That's why Henry Ford made the $5 day and introduced profit sharing, to create a market. "Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible." Henry Ford

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                                          Henry Ford sounds like one of those evil capitalistic bitches that the left is always raging against.

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