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  • A Andrew Rissing

    In general, you work best when you're not exhausted or worn out from doing one thing all the time. But if you are excited/challenged by a problem and your interest is peaked, ride the wave. I would just let your day-to-day state drive you and rather than an arbitrary deadline you might set for yourself. My 2¢.

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    Gary Wheeler
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    • W wizardzz

      So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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      FourCrate
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      It's hard but I'm trying to work full-time, study part time and do 2 side projects. I don't know how I'm managing but so far I am. I only sleep 4-5 hours per night and have a half an hour nap when I get home in the evening.

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        I refuse to code when I'm tired, simply because the code I generate when I'm tired isn't fit to wrap dead fish in.  Like you, I sleep around 6 hrs a day (which is unhealthy) Mon-Thu.  However, if I'm not tired on a weeknight, I work on my home projects about 2-4 hours after work, but if I'm tired, I leave it for the weekend. On weekends, I get up around 6:00am (refreshed) and am able to put in 12-14 hours coding.  My best work (on my home projects) is done on weekends.  One thing I've learned is to not rush to put something in the hands of users.  I want to make sure my app (or feature) is plenty tested before it gets in the hands of the end user. OT: I also try hard to make it brain-dead easy for users to report bugs and upgrade to a new release. My releases are (almost always) backward compatible with older data stores and upgrade in-place by simply clicking OK in a dialog.  Nothing to download and no installers to run.  I have immense respect for my users and am humbled by the fact they find my apps useful, and consequently want to do everything I can to make it easy for them to use my apps. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

        Nothing to download and no installers to run.

        Where does the update come from then...? :doh:

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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        • W wizardzz

          So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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          Nueman
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          I can't code after work. After sitting at a computer all day, I have to do other things when I get home. So that just leaves the weekend. With winter coming, I anticipate (and look forward to) rainy Saturday and Sunday afternoons finishing two projects that I have going.

          What me worry?

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            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

            Nothing to download and no installers to run.

            Where does the update come from then...? :doh:

            The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            Sorry, I meant the user doesn't have to download anything manually.  It's a one-click "download + install + upgrade data + restart" operation. /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              Sorry, I meant the user doesn't have to download anything manually.  It's a one-click "download + install + upgrade data + restart" operation. /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              Colin Mullikin
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              That's what I assumed you meant. Just making sure you hadn't come up with some sort of magic without telling all of us. ;P

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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              • W wizardzz

                So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                I try to do an hour or so in the evening (but only if I balance it by going to the gym for an hour first - no, it doesn't always work that way :-)) and whatever I need at the weekend.

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                • W wizardzz

                  So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                  loctrice
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                  wizardzz wrote:

                  1. Schedule set blocks of time.

                  I skip scheduled blocks now and again. I have a pretty busy schedule and sometimes I don't feel like it. That said, aside from my learning goals (for work) I don't code in my time away from work. The learning goals are for work, but we can't use work hours for them. It's to ensure that we are progressing I suppose. In order for me to do them, I must schedule x amount of time x days a week and try to keep that schedule.

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                  • G Gary Wheeler

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                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Andrew Rissing
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                    *grin* What is funny is I typo'd my intended word of peaked[^]. Btw, it is sad to see what has happened to Eastman Kodak. (Photographer here)

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                    • A Andrew Rissing

                      *grin* What is funny is I typo'd my intended word of peaked[^]. Btw, it is sad to see what has happened to Eastman Kodak. (Photographer here)

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Andrew Rissing wrote:

                      What is funny is I typo'd my intended word of peaked[^].

                      I'm a bit of a spelling Nazi, all the fault of my second grade teacher who gave out Reese's Cups as prizes for her weekly spelling bees. I love Reese's Cups.

                      Andrew Rissing wrote:

                      Btw, it is sad to see what has happened to Eastman Kodak. (Photographer here)

                      Indeed it is. I'm still hoping we survive (obviously), but the consumer film business is long gone.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • W wizardzz

                        So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                        Chris Losinger
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                        do it when it's fun. don't give yourself another job.

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                        • G Gary Wheeler

                          Andrew Rissing wrote:

                          What is funny is I typo'd my intended word of peaked[^].

                          I'm a bit of a spelling Nazi, all the fault of my second grade teacher who gave out Reese's Cups as prizes for her weekly spelling bees. I love Reese's Cups.

                          Andrew Rissing wrote:

                          Btw, it is sad to see what has happened to Eastman Kodak. (Photographer here)

                          Indeed it is. I'm still hoping we survive (obviously), but the consumer film business is long gone.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          Andrew Rissing
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                          Np. I don't mind the correction. :) One of those situations where the brain queued up the wrong keystrokes... ;)

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                          • W wizardzz

                            So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                            Dr Walt Fair PE
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                            If I'm coding for profit, I code when I need the profit. If I'm coding for fun, I only do it when it's fun.

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                            Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                              So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                              Lost User
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                              I generally have several projects on the go outside work - some technically work, some purely for pleasure. I use a self-reward system; If I spend 2 hours on this work-related task, I will reward myself with, say, 2 hours gaming, or working on pleasure-related coding. I try to split home dev tasks into very small blocks - so I can complete something in a couple of hours - that way, when that block is complete, I am happy to walk away without worrying about picking up on it next time. For example, at work a task might be to create an export option for a data file - maybe a couple of days work. At home I would split it up into several chunks - design the file, design the gui, write the sql etc. etc.

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                                So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                                I try to keep my weekday home-coding to a minimum, but I often get a "Eureka" moment and have to give it a go immediately. So I heve fixed myself a rule which I find quite easy to follow: If I stay up until silly-o-clock coding on one evening, then no more coding for the next two days - even if it is just before the weekend.

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                                  So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                                  aayawa
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                                  I slice any projects I have into small bits (Agile basics) and do bits as time allows. I try to keep it down to less than an hour at a time, which gives me time to incubate

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                                    So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                                    GenJerDan
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                                    I've got a program written in Delphi that I'm rewriting in C#... ...started the translation in 2008. ...still working on it. Think I've paced myself enough? ;P

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                                      So I started working on a project, one that future Mrs. Wiz is doing the frontend/visuals on. It is neither of the 2 previously mentioned projects. How do you pace yourself? I'm having trouble with going home and just coding for like 4 hours straight. It's fun, it's rewarding, but I'm afraid of burnout. 12-14 hours of coding a day seems like it could lean to burnout (I only sleep 5-6 hours). What do you guys do: 1) Schedule set blocks of time. 2) Set upper limits per day. 3) Only code on weekends.

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                                      agolddog
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                                      I don't. A big caveat, however. I've been doing this for 25+ years. by now, having a life outside of work is much more important than geeking it up. I still very much enjoy the analytical, problem-solving aspect of development. I laid in bed for 3-4 hours last night thinking about something I'd developed and realized a couple of changes I needed to make for corner cases. But, the actual implementation is pretty boring. Whether I'm using .NET or MVC, C# code-behind or jquery on the client, it doesn't matter. The new technologies are fun to learn, but the actual coding part is meh. So, I guess my advice to you is to not take this second thing on as another job. As long as it's a hobby, you'll probably enjoy fooling around with it. Once you start setting deadlines, and feeling as if, "I have to get this feature done tonight", you'll start burning out.

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                                        I slice any projects I have into small bits (Agile basics) and do bits as time allows. I try to keep it down to less than an hour at a time, which gives me time to incubate

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                                        wizardzz
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                                        Hour chunks is pretty small. Maybe I need some time to scope out the rest of the work to be done so I can split it up that small.

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                                          I try to keep my weekday home-coding to a minimum, but I often get a "Eureka" moment and have to give it a go immediately. So I heve fixed myself a rule which I find quite easy to follow: If I stay up until silly-o-clock coding on one evening, then no more coding for the next two days - even if it is just before the weekend.

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                                          wizardzz
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                                          That's not a bad idea. I did two nights in a row of late coding, and last night had to force myself away from the project (okay, I still discussed it and peaked at it, but no coding!) to enjoy the last warm night of the season and have some beers, got to bed early-ish.

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