Did you get a Surface RT?
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The Pro definitely is appealing. I don't have one because of the later release date. As I said to Jim above, I had considered getting one of each when each became available, but I'm happy enough with the RT that I think I've changed my mind and wind up buying or building a new desktop machine for development so that my 4 year old laptop can be strictly for play.
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Still waiting for them to be available in Italy, but I'm seriously considering dismissing my laptop, which I never use, in favor of a tablet.
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Is there an availability date for Italy yet? If not, I hope it comes soon for you. :) I can see my laptop never leaving my desk again now that I've got my tablet. I can't gush enough about how nice it is. :laugh:
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Mine arrived about 13 hours ago, give or take. I'm really impressed with it. The touch keyboard is very nice -- nicer than I expected, even. The screen is nice and crisp, even with small text. And Windows RT is slick! Anyone else out there get one and, if so what's your impression so far?
So the RT version does not have the desktop at all?
Regards, Nish
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So the RT version does not have the desktop at all?
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
It has a desktop; however, you can't install desktop applications. There is a desktop IE, Office RT, Windows Explorer, and the control panel (for stuff not covered in the Metro settings app). But if it's not already on the device, you can't install it unless it's a Metro app.
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It has a desktop; however, you can't install desktop applications. There is a desktop IE, Office RT, Windows Explorer, and the control panel (for stuff not covered in the Metro settings app). But if it's not already on the device, you can't install it unless it's a Metro app.
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Good thing I didn't purchase based on the manufacturer's hype or I'd take offense at that answer. :laugh: Seriously though, I bought it based on my (perceived) need for an RT device to test stuff on. I was lukewarm to the other RT offerings I was seeing and when Microsoft announced this tablet, and the touch cover, I felt like they had built something that would be worth the purchase if anything would be.
Only the stupid need take offense ;) I Posted earlier that the exception was those developers who intended to develop for the device
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Only the stupid need take offense ;) I Posted earlier that the exception was those developers who intended to develop for the device
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
I missed that post. But I didn't take any offense anyway. I presumed it was a tongue-in-cheek shot. :-D
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You're welcome. So, are you considering buying one?
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I went with the RT because I'm developing Win8 apps and need a touch device to test on. I didn't want to wait for the Pro, but planned on getting one of them to go along with the RT. Now that I've got my RT, I'm happy enough with it that I'll probably spend the money I was going to spend on the Pro for some good desktop kit instead, since my current development environment is a 4 year old laptop that's now running Win8 Pro. Obviously I've only had it a day, but I'm REALLY liking this tablet. It's awesome for portability and since I have the laptop for my Windows desktop needs, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not being able to install desktop apps.
Cool. Was it a lot of work getting the development env set up so you can easily test builds on the RT? Assume you have to sign up with microsoft and pay a yearly fee like apple? Any problems so far developing for RT or is it quite smooth?
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Cool. Was it a lot of work getting the development env set up so you can easily test builds on the RT? Assume you have to sign up with microsoft and pay a yearly fee like apple? Any problems so far developing for RT or is it quite smooth?
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
I haven't gotten that far yet. Because I don't have an MSDN subscription, yesterday was my first day with the release version of Win8 on my laptop, so I've been at a standstill in terms of development. My next step will be to register as a developer and pay the fee. THEN I'll be able to answer this kind of question.
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Mine arrived about 13 hours ago, give or take. I'm really impressed with it. The touch keyboard is very nice -- nicer than I expected, even. The screen is nice and crisp, even with small text. And Windows RT is slick! Anyone else out there get one and, if so what's your impression so far?
Well, congratulations, and deepest sympathies ! I am curious to ask you what you use as a general purpose text-editor, or RTF editor, in a Surface RT just out-of-the-box: an included Metro app ? Is there a 'NotePad,' or 'WordPad' lurking within the desktop mode. best, Bill
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Well, congratulations, and deepest sympathies ! I am curious to ask you what you use as a general purpose text-editor, or RTF editor, in a Surface RT just out-of-the-box: an included Metro app ? Is there a 'NotePad,' or 'WordPad' lurking within the desktop mode. best, Bill
~ Confused by Windows 8 ? This may help: [^] !
Notepad still exists on the desktop and there are some apps in the store for text editing as well. For RTF editing, there's Word (one of the four Office 2013 RT applications). Thanks for the congrats. I don't think I'm going to need the sympathy -- this is a great device!
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You're welcome. So, are you considering buying one?
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Cool. Was it a lot of work getting the development env set up so you can easily test builds on the RT? Assume you have to sign up with microsoft and pay a yearly fee like apple? Any problems so far developing for RT or is it quite smooth?
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
I can now answer this question since I've got Windows 8 on my dev machine now. In order to publish apps you have to pay an annual fee (currently $49). However, it doesn't appear that you have to pay that fee in order to test your app, even on your own remote machine. I can't say this for sure since I have paid the fee. Deploying the app for remote debugging was fairly simple. I had to install the remote debugging package on my RT machine (available as a download on the VS2012 downloads page, as well as bundled with VS), then configure it (basically, just run the debugger monitor on the RT machine and accept the default config options). Choose remote machine as the run target in VS and then select the RT machine from the list that is displayed. VS will deploy the app to the RT machine and begin debugging it. The first run of your first app will take longer because the remote machine needs to get a developer license (same way that VS does every 30 days). The process was easier to perform than it was to describe here. :) And now that my app is on my Surface, I can run it directly on there without the running debugger monitor so that I can test things at my leisure.
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I can now answer this question since I've got Windows 8 on my dev machine now. In order to publish apps you have to pay an annual fee (currently $49). However, it doesn't appear that you have to pay that fee in order to test your app, even on your own remote machine. I can't say this for sure since I have paid the fee. Deploying the app for remote debugging was fairly simple. I had to install the remote debugging package on my RT machine (available as a download on the VS2012 downloads page, as well as bundled with VS), then configure it (basically, just run the debugger monitor on the RT machine and accept the default config options). Choose remote machine as the run target in VS and then select the RT machine from the list that is displayed. VS will deploy the app to the RT machine and begin debugging it. The first run of your first app will take longer because the remote machine needs to get a developer license (same way that VS does every 30 days). The process was easier to perform than it was to describe here. :) And now that my app is on my Surface, I can run it directly on there without the running debugger monitor so that I can test things at my leisure.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like it's really easy to get up and running.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Thanks for the info. Sounds like it's really easy to get up and running.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
The next time I worked with it, I had trouble getting it to connect consistently. But my Surface may have needed a reboot, so who knows.