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  • D Daniel Ferguson

    I was reading another post and someone referred to computer programmers as 'he'. It got me to thinking: how many female computer programmers are there? There doesn't seem to be very many and I am wondering why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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    Chris Losinger
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    (i'm not making this up) there is a rule-of-thumb that says the number of female engineers on a team will equal the number of men named "david" on that team. it has always applied perfectly, in the team i'm currently on. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com

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    • D Daniel Ferguson

      I was reading another post and someone referred to computer programmers as 'he'. It got me to thinking: how many female computer programmers are there? There doesn't seem to be very many and I am wondering why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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      Stan Shannon
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      I know several very good female programmers - but it seems they all get drawn into network admin, mainframe programming, and things of that nature for large corporations. I think the large corps hire them disproportionately to have a more diverse work force. Small shops don't need to worry too much about that, we're just too busy trying to survive to worry about politically correctness. :rose:

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      • D Daniel Ferguson

        I was reading another post and someone referred to computer programmers as 'he'. It got me to thinking: how many female computer programmers are there? There doesn't seem to be very many and I am wondering why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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        Tim Smith
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        In the two shops I have been in, the men out numbered the women 2 to 1. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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          (i'm not making this up) there is a rule-of-thumb that says the number of female engineers on a team will equal the number of men named "david" on that team. it has always applied perfectly, in the team i'm currently on. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com

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          Andy Hassall
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          Oh well, there's always an exception to every rule. There's a David in my team, but... :mad: :((

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          • D Daniel Ferguson

            I was reading another post and someone referred to computer programmers as 'he'. It got me to thinking: how many female computer programmers are there? There doesn't seem to be very many and I am wondering why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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            Kevnar
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            The people who complain the loudest about sexism and political correctness are usually the ones who get the least work done. They're too busy "policing".

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            • K Kevnar

              The people who complain the loudest about sexism and political correctness are usually the ones who get the least work done. They're too busy "policing".

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              Daniel Ferguson
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              Policing? I call it whining. ;) I'm not the least bit interested in political correctness or sexism -- I just wondered if women aren't interested in being programmers, and if so, then why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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              • D Daniel Ferguson

                Policing? I call it whining. ;) I'm not the least bit interested in political correctness or sexism -- I just wondered if women aren't interested in being programmers, and if so, then why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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                Kevnar
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                We have two women programming at my work place. They do just fine. They say men are just naturally more adept at logic, math and reasoning, all of which are essential to programming. Anthropologically speak perhaps we like to "hunt" down errors and "kill" them.

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                • D Daniel Ferguson

                  I was reading another post and someone referred to computer programmers as 'he'. It got me to thinking: how many female computer programmers are there? There doesn't seem to be very many and I am wondering why? "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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                  John Uhlenbrock
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                  I know how to get them to come out of the woods and post a message though.... Just post a message that says something like "In my opinion, its because women just aren't as smart as men."

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                  • K Kevnar

                    We have two women programming at my work place. They do just fine. They say men are just naturally more adept at logic, math and reasoning, all of which are essential to programming. Anthropologically speak perhaps we like to "hunt" down errors and "kill" them.

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                    Jamie Nordmeyer
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                    :laugh: Good analogy, Kevin! I went to ITT in Seattle (I decided to program after college), and the same applys to engineering, and thus, apparently, to the high tech community in general. Most women I've known just find it boring. Intel has actually targeted women specifically in the past to try and increase their numbers in the high tech community. Jamie Nordmeyer Portland, Oregon, USA

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      (i'm not making this up) there is a rule-of-thumb that says the number of female engineers on a team will equal the number of men named "david" on that team. it has always applied perfectly, in the team i'm currently on. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com

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                      Cathy
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                      The team I'm on has 1 female (me) and no Davids.

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                      • J John Uhlenbrock

                        I know how to get them to come out of the woods and post a message though.... Just post a message that says something like "In my opinion, its because women just aren't as smart as men."

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                        Andrew Peace
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                        I'm sure Lauren must be about somewhere ....? > Andrew.

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                        • J John Uhlenbrock

                          I know how to get them to come out of the woods and post a message though.... Just post a message that says something like "In my opinion, its because women just aren't as smart as men."

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                          realJSOP
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                          Most functions written by women start out like this:

                          BOOL CTheWoman::IsRight(int nManValue/*=0*/)
                          {
                          BOOL bThisTime = TRUE;
                          BOOL bAlways = TRUE;
                          BOOL bManRight = FALSE;
                          if (!bThisTime)
                          {
                          return bAlways;
                          }
                          else
                          {
                          return bThisTime;
                          }

                           if (nManValue > 0 || nManValue < 0 || nManValue = 0)
                           {
                             return bAlways;
                           }
                          

                          }

                          Notice the default value of the nManValue is 0. Notice also that through a quirk of logic, the function above never even reaches the code which compares the nManValue identifier for validity. Even if it did reach that particular piece of code, she's still right. I think god put woman on earth because *someone* has to clean the house, and it sure as hell isn't the man's job. :-D

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                            Most functions written by women start out like this:

                            BOOL CTheWoman::IsRight(int nManValue/*=0*/)
                            {
                            BOOL bThisTime = TRUE;
                            BOOL bAlways = TRUE;
                            BOOL bManRight = FALSE;
                            if (!bThisTime)
                            {
                            return bAlways;
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            return bThisTime;
                            }

                             if (nManValue > 0 || nManValue < 0 || nManValue = 0)
                             {
                               return bAlways;
                             }
                            

                            }

                            Notice the default value of the nManValue is 0. Notice also that through a quirk of logic, the function above never even reaches the code which compares the nManValue identifier for validity. Even if it did reach that particular piece of code, she's still right. I think god put woman on earth because *someone* has to clean the house, and it sure as hell isn't the man's job. :-D

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                            PJ Arends
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                            You the Man (1.16 MB):laugh: :laugh: --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.

                            Within you lies the power for good; Use it!

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                              (i'm not making this up) there is a rule-of-thumb that says the number of female engineers on a team will equal the number of men named "david" on that team. it has always applied perfectly, in the team i'm currently on. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com

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                              Wayne Fuller
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                              There are 6 Davids on my team, and only 1 female.

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                              • K Kevnar

                                The people who complain the loudest about sexism and political correctness are usually the ones who get the least work done. They're too busy "policing".

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Couldn't agree more. I would hire a female programmer IF I thought she was the best candidate. It is completely unfair that big corporations need to hire x Aboriginals and x females to 'prove' they do not discriminate. I'm just waiting for the day we need to hire x gay people as well. I'm happy to hire all three, I just think the only thing that should matter is the quality of a persons work. Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first.

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                                • PJ ArendsP PJ Arends

                                  You the Man (1.16 MB):laugh: :laugh: --- Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once.

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                                  jkgh
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                                  I haven't laughed so much in a while - and I was allowed to too. C++/C# Student. Wither Thee VB.Net.

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