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    PaulowniaK
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    Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

    Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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      Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

      Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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      PaulowniaK wrote:

      Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful...

      How many reasons do you need? Look how many billions of us are already living on this planet and how many there are going to be unless something drastic happens. We are already thriving us to death, as any other species would under similar conditions. There also is the fact, that mother nature had to make a few modifications to monkey 1.0, us being the result. There were bigger problems to be solved, while it was not exactly a planned, controlled and scheduled process. There was, for example, the problem of a large brain. Neurons are not transistors, but there are some parallels to a microprocessor. The processor draws more and more power the more transistors it has, the more rapidly they switch and also the more efficient parallel operations are organized internally, the more energy it needs. Brains behave the same way in those respects. Many adaptations were needed to provide this energy, but obviously it was worth it. The mutant superpower of thinking sure made us successful. At birth the large head filled with grey matter makes things complicated, painful and dangerous. Again, many adaptations were needed to make this work at all. Mother nature, against some people's belief, has no boss and does not work to meet deadlines. The adaptations are still going on and will never end. This process may try to approach an optimum state, but this optimum always has been a moving target.

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        Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

        Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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        I was just reading a book where a doctor was discussing the faults with the human pain system. Who would design an alarm system (pain) that cannot be turned off and has no volume control. There were a few other salient points but it came down to really bad design. So if there was an intelligence behind the design of the human being it was a bloody useless designer!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

          Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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          Because we have evolved to our current state, and everything has "just worked" enough to get us here, we are full of "design flaws" which just haven't - quite - been enough of a limitation to kill of the species. Teeth for example. There are many examples of this, but the one I love is the Recurrent Laryngeal Nerve[^] which all mammals have as a result of our common ancestor having it's heart in a different position. In Humans, it's not a problem; the extra few inches don't make any difference. But in the case of the Giraffe, it adds an extra 4m of nerve to travel 15cm... :omg: [edit]Typo : "hearth" for "heart" - OriginalGriff[/edit]

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            Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

            Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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            There are several design flaws... Amongst others: Who on Earth would put an amusement park so close to a sewage discharge? Not even Disney... ;P

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              There are several design flaws... Amongst others: Who on Earth would put an amusement park so close to a sewage discharge? Not even Disney... ;P

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              Johnny J. wrote:

              Who on Earth would put an amusement park so close to a sewage discharge?

              Um. Most UK local councils would, to be honest... :sigh:

              If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                There are several design flaws... Amongst others: Who on Earth would put an amusement park so close to a sewage discharge? Not even Disney... ;P

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                How can it be a design flaw? When the ride suck you can stand and be amazed by the simplicity behind the stupidity of placing a sewage discharge near an amusement park :-D

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                  I was just reading a book where a doctor was discussing the faults with the human pain system. Who would design an alarm system (pain) that cannot be turned off and has no volume control. There were a few other salient points but it came down to really bad design. So if there was an intelligence behind the design of the human being it was a bloody useless designer!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                  So if there was an intelligence behind the design of the human being it was a bloody useless designer!

                  If you ever need proof we were not "intelligently designed" watch a baby who is teething at just the second a molar erupts bloodily and painfully through the gum. What sadistic bastard would "design" it that way?

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                    Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

                    Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                    There is a school of thought that part of the reason pregnant mothers puke alot, is to keep anything bad away from them to stop them getting ill. Meat will often make pregnant women sick, but potatoes, and other starchy things like that wont. Which is more likely to harbour bacteria and give them food poisoning - potentially killing their unborn baby?

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                      Johnny J. wrote:

                      Who on Earth would put an amusement park so close to a sewage discharge?

                      Um. Most UK local councils would, to be honest... :sigh:

                      If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      Um. Most UK local councils would, to be honest... :sigh:

                      And do. Brighton's pier is located but a short distance from a sewage outlet. I find it quite revolting to think that people actually swim in that water.

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                        Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

                        Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                        Apparently women have to atone in perpetuity for original sin. All nonsense of course but some people get off on that "loving" god tripe.

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                          Just spent 5 minutes chatting to a pregnant colleague. She's suffering very badly from morning sickness. Something tells me that humans are flawed in design? Why make it impossible for women to ingest any nutrition just when she needs it most? Even though childbirth is getting safer especially in the developed world, why is it such a hassle? Surely a species has better chance of thriving if carrying babies weren't as terrible and giving birth so painful... :~

                          Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                          There is a cure (well, more of a prevention), but it is not exactly KSS, but then anyone who is already pregnant has gone beyond what is KSS anyway. The prevention continued into pregnancy also acts as a prevention for pre-exclampsia. It's the gift that keeps on giving[^]

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                            There is a cure (well, more of a prevention), but it is not exactly KSS, but then anyone who is already pregnant has gone beyond what is KSS anyway. The prevention continued into pregnancy also acts as a prevention for pre-exclampsia. It's the gift that keeps on giving[^]

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                            "So...do you sick or swallow?"

                            If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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